With respect to all concerned, the yard employee’s guidance to paint the C&C 
rudder white reminded me of the sort of prank played on apprentice electricians:

“Billy, quick, go to the foreman and get me a wire stretcher”. 

Have never seen this white rudder thing in southern Ontario- seems to me that 
if it heats and thaws it not only contracts but any liquid or gas can escape 
via the same path it used to enter.  

“Billy - Those C&C’s can go off like grenades when the sun comes out”

That said - my experience is limited only to itself. 

Anyway, am Happy to share that my ownership experience is like Matthew’s and 
others - my 33-2 rudder remains dry and sound, however I do watch it closely 
and have been proactive with preventative maintenance.  Draining a wet one 
seems like a good interim idea for sure.

Pics here of Windstar’s rudder being entombed in epoxy as well as pics of a 
really nasty rudder failure on a Squadron 36

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2021/04/?m=1

Pics here of what can happen to keels in an area with seasonal haul out and 
freeze/thaw cycles.  

https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2016/09/mid-1980s-c-keel-issues.html?m=1

Freezing here at the moment. 

Dave 33-2 windstar 

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> On Jan 8, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Matthew via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> My 42 Custom, my previous 34, and the 36 of the same vintage all have a 
> similar design for the rudder.  The top of the rudder where the rudder post 
> enters is out of the water when the boat is at rest.  If you have a 
> reasonably good seal where the rudder post enters, water infiltration should 
> be kept to a minimum.
>  
> From: John Read via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 5:40 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net; 'Martin DeYoung' <martin.deyo...@outlook.com>; 
> John Read <johnprea...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting Rudders White.
>  
> My C&C 34 now 40 years old and nary a problem in this regard.  Prior boat 25 
> years nary a problem.  I think the issue has more to do with how the rudder 
> is constructed.  If just shaped foam covered with a few layers of glass and 
> even better is water logged then might be a problem.  Mine is solid glass 3-4 
> inches thick around entire perimeter and is dry so no problems.  John your 36 
> has older thick not really tapered design so most likely not an issue for you.
>  
> My 2 cents American  J
>  
> John Read
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
> From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 4:02 PM
> To: Stus-List
> Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net; Martin DeYoung
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Painting Rudders White.
>  
>  Not quite the same risk but last summer (2021) when Calypso was hauled out 
> for paint and repairs the PNW experienced a stretch of very hot weather. It 
> was enough sustained heat that all the white lithium grease around the rudder 
> bearings “melted” and ran down the rudder to puddle on the tarp (ground).
>  
> Fortunately it cooled down before we got around to stripping/painting the 
> rudder.
> I posted reminders to refill the packing gland before launching but after all 
> painting was finished. It took most of a grease tube before I observed a 
> suitable amount of grease squirting out of the usual places.
> 
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso 
> 1971 C&C 43
> Port Ludlow/Seattle 
>  
> 
> On Jan 7, 2022, at 10:53 AM, John McCrea via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Curious if anyone has been told that you should paint their rudders white to 
> prevent issues when the boat is out for the winter? One of the staff at my 
> winter yard told me he has seen C&C rudders burst due to the sun heating them 
> up?
>  
> I used to do this on my past Ericson 32 as the previous owner had and told me 
> that they had similar issues. Did not on our last C&C 37XL nor our current, 
> and the previous owner of 25 years did not. I am so buried with other boats 
> around me I doubt I even get any sun exposure. I assume once the boat is in 
> the water it does not matter. Thanks!
>  
> John McCrea
> Talisman
> 1979 36-1
> Mystic, CT
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