Boat insurance is always a lively topic on the list!  I have resisted 
participating, but wanted to offer a few more philosophical type thoughts.

As all of us know, getting insurance quotes for anything -- car, house, boat, 
life, will result in a very wide range of premiums.  Usually, the policies are 
not identical either making a comparison difficult.  It's a good idea to get 
several quotes for insurance every five years or so.

Before purchasing insurance, be clear about why insurance is being purchased 
and what is being protected.  Most financial advisors will promote insurance as 
a protection against catastrophe.  That will result in the most reasonable 
insurance cost and balances risk (risk = probability x consequence).  Many 
consumers want to insure against any and all loss.  That raises premiums 
dramatically because, for the insurance co. the probability of a claim is high 
now, but maybe the peace of mind is worth it to some.

As has been mentioned before, the liability coverage is absolutely necessary 
and the most important part of the insurance -- boat, car, home.

Insurance premiums for automobiles are closely related to the insureds credit 
rating.  This is permitted and there is a very close correlation between how 
someone handles finances and how they handle risks in life.  I don't know, but 
expect, boat insurance is similarly connected to credit rating.

I'd offer this about the $70k agreed value, 42-yr-old C&C Landfall, not to pick 
on that boat or owner, but it is very illustrative.  The owner is wanting to 
protect against any loss.  And the premium is high, as would be expected.  In 
10 years, the owner will likely have paid $30k in insurance premiums given rate 
increases.  A 52-yr-old C&C38 (ten years from now) in top condition might be 
sold for $30k to $40k. Something to think about.

My premium for a '81 C&C34 in above average condition and agreed value of $27k 
(now too high really after 5 years) is less than $220 per year.  That doesn't 
mean a lot to anyone unless we go through all the details of the policy, but 
the boat and I are covered for the worst -- liability, environmental damage, 
loss of boat.  In nearly 50 years of owning and insuring boats, I have never 
made a claim.

Jeff Laman
'81C&C34 Harmony
Ludington, MI
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Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Insurance... what is to much?


I keep waiting for Progressive to get revealed as a huge scheme.

I was paying $700/yr. to Geico (nee BoatUS) for ONE boat and now I have all 
three of my boats on Progressive with better coverage for $700/yr. They had no 
issue with quoting a C&C 41 and I think their website states they go up to 50 
feet or so. I am also about to switch my car insurance to them, same deal, 
better coverage for less money. Not that I would actually try it, but my Boston 
Whaler is insured to go 100 miles offshore from Maine to Florida and so is the 
dinghy.

How do they do this?

I also wonder about the insured value, on the form to sign up it is whatever 
you say it is. I wonder if it has some algorithm to flag wildly inappropriate 
values. I swear I was being careful, but my $150,000 dinghy got loose and 
vanished. Darn the luck!





Joe Della Barba  Coquina

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