My feeling about boat shopping is that you will know her when you see her.
On 2/23/2023 4:48 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote:
I'm not sure there is much research that went into this comment. Most
of the boats you listed have been around for decades and some are
amazingly designed and of high quality construction. I think Andy was
talking more about the triangular shaped, (in plan) modern boats that
are almost catamaran-like. These boats are, lightweight, flat
bottomed boats, with a hard chine on each side, In essence, creating
2 hulls, one for each tack. However, the interior vary, Moody's
interior are very traditional, with plenty of wood, curved corners and
plenty of hand holds. The older Hylas, oyster, Holland boats, I'm
looking at are pretty traditional. One is even designed by Sparkman
and Stevens.
This will be our 4th sail boat, hence, our 4th shopping experience,
and one thing I can say with certainty, is there are plenty of
surprises in boat shopping. You simply can't make these sweeping
generalizations with any degree of certainty. There are some
beautifully fitted out Bavaria's from the late 90s early 2000s. The
boat shows simply can't be a real gauge of the used boat market.
Hell, Catalina actually produced an amazingly well build 38 footer
that was designed by Sparkman and Stevens with plywood cored decks and
solid fiberglass hull.
Making an argument as to why you're hanging onto your boat is great.
But to dismiss quality brans, wholesale like that, is just not helpful
banter. Thanks for the input, though.
Danny
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From: Richard Bush via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Richard Bush <bushma...@aol.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boats to avoid; formerly- Boatless again
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 04:00:47 +0000 (UTC)
I was pleased to read Andrew Burton's comments about the modern trendy
boats (hylas, oyster, moody, Holland, Bavaria, Dufour etc., ); when
someasked him what to avoid, he said..."... I’m just not a fan of that
ilk. Plus the interiors tend to be a bit ikea-ish with lots of sharp
corners and few handholds."
Andy, thank you, thank you; I have long felt that way, and it is nice
to hear a person with your experience (and credentials) finally say it!
That is a major reason I have held on to my C&C 37; boats that can
provide what it provides are going to cost 10 times what I have in my
boat and don't handle as well..!
Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1085 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255
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From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2023 5:34 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
Not really. I’m just not a fan of that ilk. Plus the interiors tend to
be a bit ikea-ish with lots of sharp corners and few handholds.
Andrew Burton
On Feb 22, 2023, at 17:32, DJ via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
Andy, Would have any suggestions as to what to stay clear of?
On Feb 22, 2023 4:21 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Danny, I’ve delivered several modern fat-assed boats and
though they tick a lot of boxes, they do not sail well unless
you’re on your ear because of all the wetted surface.
Andy
Andrew Burton
On Feb 22, 2023, at 16:01, Danny Haughey via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I've got hylas, oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so
far. Maybe a Bavaria, or Dufour but, those can really slam
going to wind...
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