Rob Ball began working for C&C Yachts in 1966.  His first lines drawing for the 
Georges was the sail plan for the 24’9” LWL auxiliary sloop, i.e. the C&C 30 MK 
I.  He signed and dated it in 1970.  I have a framed copy of it hanging on the 
salon bulkhead in my boat.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Sep 4, 2025, at 1:54 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> And '72 was a year before Rob Ball joined, isn't it?
>  
> Chuck S
>> On 09/04/2025 3:39 PM EDT Don Kern via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Randy, 
>> 
>> I believe you are misinterpreting the HIN.  The form used by C&C would be 
>> you have hull #007, which started construction 9/72.  Did you get that HIN 
>> off your transom?  It seems like you are missing a digit. 
>> 
>> Don Kern 
>> Fireball, C&C35 Mk2, CCY352550374 
>> Bristol, RI 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/4/2025 1:14 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>  
>>> I know sailboatdata.com or some other publication says production of the 30 
>>> MK I started in 1973, but it actually started earlier than that.  I have 
>>> hull #79 which was built in 1972 (HIN 30007972).  Cheers.
>>>  
>>> Randy Stafford
>>> SV Grenadine
>>> C&C 30 MK I #79
>>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 8:34 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Janet,
>>>> Sailboatdata.com is a great resource as well as cncphotoalbum.com if you 
>>>> look through the brochures.
>>>>  
>>>> The C&C 30 came out in 1973.  Brokers called it the Mk I and the 30 MkII 
>>>> came out in 1988, so you probably have the MkI.
>>>> The mark numbers are broker terms to differentiate the various models.  
>>>> Year of design would be better for me.
>>>> Mk I:  https://sailboatdata.com/listing/cc-30-mk-i/
>>>>  
>>>> Mk II:  https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cc-30-2/
>>>>  
>>>> Chuck S
>>>>> On 09/03/2025 9:55 PM EDT Janet Schilling via CnC-List 
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Are you asking about my C&C? I believe it’s a Mark I. Could you please 
>>>>> educate me on the differences between the I and II?
>>>>> Janet Schilling
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 7:58 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is it a 30 mk 2 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joel Delamirande
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.jdroofing.ca <http://www.jdroofing.ca/>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 7:28 PM Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes a 29-mk2
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2025, at 6:57 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> is it a mark two
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 12:10 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> You surely can sell boats or give them away here (for us longtime 
>>>>>>> members at least). 
>>>>>>> The boat market is quite odd to say the least. Prices seem to be high 
>>>>>>> for used boats for the most part, but older boats seem to be about 
>>>>>>> impossible to sell. Probably half the C&Cs for sale right now were for 
>>>>>>> sale years ago. Old boats are about impossible to finance and difficult 
>>>>>>> to insure. Dark Star is about as nice a C&C 30 as can be found and is 
>>>>>>> not moving at 11K. 
>>>>>>> I would leave the boat in the water, prospective buyers can pay for a 
>>>>>>> haul themselves. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joe Della Barba 
>>>>>>> Coquina 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>>>> From: Janet Schilling via CnC-List <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 11:51 AM 
>>>>>>> To: Stus-List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>> Cc: Janet Schilling <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Selling boats 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is it permissible to offer a boat for sale here? I’m on the fence about 
>>>>>>> keeping, selling or donating my 1980 C&C 30’. Is the economy badly 
>>>>>>> affecting sales? Should I take some of the newer items off first to 
>>>>>>> part some things out like new lifeline covers, throwable cushions, $500 
>>>>>>> new halyard, sail and binnacle covers? Would it be better to leave in 
>>>>>>> the water (slip paid through end of year) vs. on the hard so it’s 
>>>>>>> easily inspected (but no test sails)? I’ve enjoyed racing this boat 
>>>>>>> since 1993 and am ready to move on. 
>>>>>>> Janet Schilling 
>>>>>>> Penniless 
>>>>>>> St. Michaels, MD 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Joel Delamirande
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> www.jdroofing.ca <http://www.jdroofing.ca/>
>>>>>>>  
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