Trawlers are where old sailors go today Bill Coleman
On Tue, Sep 30, 2025, 09:27 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > Another thought: > > When I was in the boat fixing business I saw this scenario more than once: > > An aging couple sold their 30-something foot fin keel racer cruiser. This > is a boat they had forever and was easy to handle around the marina and > fast enough to be a lazy sailor with some jib rolled out and still get > where you wanted to go. > > The next boat was a 40-something foot heavier cruising boat with all the > mod cons. Now they had all kinds of systems to maintain they never had > before. This much heavier and less agile boat was much more of a challenge > to get in and out of a slip. A big heavy boat needs big sails to move, > there was no more rolling a bit of job out and being on your way. > > The next step after that was a power boat once they realized they had more > boat then they could handle. > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > > > > > *From:* Richard Bush <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2025 1:35 PM > *To:* Stus-List <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Riley Anderson <[email protected]>; Della Barba, Joe < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is there a new boat in my > future? > > > > Joe, well said! > > > > Richard > > 1985 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596 > > > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > > 2950 Breckenridge Lane > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2950+Breckenridge+Lane?entry=gmail&source=g>, > Suite Nine > > Louisville, Kentucky 40220 > > (502) 584-7255 > > > > > > On Monday, September 29, 2025 at 01:22:27 PM EDT, Della Barba, Joe via > CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > There are a LOT of different factors in play here. > > My C&C 35 MK I is very narrow by modern standards. My initial stability is > not all that good, the boat heels easily to a gust. My AVS (Angle of > Vanishing Stability) is pretty good, I think it is about 125. > > Think about a fat-a55 BeneHunt type boat. Their initial stability is much > higher, not to mention space below. Their AVS is likely lower and their > behaviour when well-heeled likely quite a bit worse. I have taken 20+ foot > breaking waves on the beam that rolled us nearly 90 degrees. This was wet > and annoying, but the boat popped right back up to keep sailing. A boat 5 > feet wider…….I am thinking not so much. > > There are also various moments of inertia. A heavier boat doesn’t jump > around like a lighter boat. It may be slower, but the ride may be a lot > more comfortable. Rolling inertia is a big factor in capsize resistance. A > bigger heavier boat is harder to get rolling, so unlike her lighter sisters > she won’t have rolled as far before the wave has past. The C&C 30 MK I > probably has the highest AVS of any C&C made, but that does not necessarily > mean one is harder to capsize than a C&C 40. > > Another form of stability is steering or course-keeping. For a shorthanded > crew, a 35 would be a challenge in heavy air offshore. My boat is fast in > heavy air, but she does not come remotely close to steering herself. A lot > of helm input is needed, especially if getting into double-digit speeds > down a wave and this input needs muscle. A boat that maybe doesn’t turn on > a dime like our boats but is easy to keep straight would be a lot less work > for 2 people alternating watches. > > ( this does not always translate into an old design, our old wood > Dickerson Ketch was a total biatch to keep straight in a quartering sea > with the mizzen trying to shove the stern around) > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > Coquina > > > > Your contributions help pay the fees associated with this list and help to > keep it active. Please help by making a small contribution using PayPal > at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/stumurray All contributions are > greatly appreciated. > Your contributions help pay the fees associated with this list and help to > keep it active. Please help by making a small contribution using PayPal > at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/stumurray All contributions are > greatly appreciated.
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