I was just kidding because earthlink prevented the mailbox for one person I know who wanted one, and raq 3 won't install the .pkg I need the system update 4.0
that's where the earthlink + raq 3 = bleh came from the raq 3 issue is causing a delay in getting php up with the libraries I need up it was just a goofy comment on it to vent Thanks for your time Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Lasman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [cobalt-developers] SMTP Email > Joel Holtzman wrote: > > > earthlink = bleh > > > > that's what I get out of this. Time to install a web based mail, > > Web mail is nice, but I can't imagine any customer would want to use > web-based outgoing email. > > > or just let > > them enjoy mail forwarding, what a shame. > > No shame. This is the way the Internet works. If I (as an ISP) can't > restrict outgoing email to my own server there's no way I can keep > spammers from using my connection. > > > In short, raq 3 + earthlink = headaches > > Nope. Not at all. You can be as prejudiced as you want, but every > responsible ISP does now, or will eventually, block outgoing email from > all their dialup accounts, except through their own ports. I did, on my > ISPs, and if I ever run another one (I've been asked to become a partner > in Socalix), I'll do it to. > > Here's what'll happen before long if I don't: > > Spammers will figure out they can use my outgoing dialup accounts to > send spam that I won't see in my logs. They'll buy accounts with me and > tell their friends to do the same. > > The outgoing spam will have so many bad addresses (most email lists > spammers use are better than 50% invalid addresses; they just don't > care; it's cheaper to send out more and to buy more lists than it is to > clean them, and they don't care about the messes they leave behind) that > my server will be inundated with literally millions of bounced emails > daily. You've never seen millions of emails hit a server, have you? I > have. > > The millions of bounces will completely bury my mailserver. It'll shut > down and my upstream provider will start seeing all the traffic bouncing > back and forth on his network, so he'll shut me off the net to keep from > closing down all his customers systems. > > All responsible ISPs will block my IP# address blocks so no one can > reach my machines. > > I'll end up spending tens of thousands of dollars to fix everything if I > want to stay in business, and the spammers won't care, they'll just > start using someone else. > > That's my story, and I'm sticking to it <wry grin>. > > Jeff > -- > Jeff Lasman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linux and Cobalt/Sun/RaQ Consulting > nobaloney.net > P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 > voice: (909) 778-9980 * fax: (702) 548-9484 > > _______________________________________________ > cobalt-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-developers > _______________________________________________ cobalt-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-developers
