Again, I'd like to emphasize that we are missing the point as to
understanding "why" some people watch birds. There are various sets
of values out there to assume every single birder has the same mindset
of others is inaccurate and hamper any progress. If you seek to
capture the attention of "all" birders someone better come up with a
more compelling story to garner their interests--("guilt trips" and
"scolding" won't work) you will not capture everybody but if the 80/20
rule applies here that should be the goal. The 20(%) that simply
enjoying birding for birding have friends who may become part of the
80.
Regarding record-keeping, I'm an IT and "logic"-guy ... I shouldn't
have to remember 100 passwords to do my job (or live life) nor should
I have to enter my bird reports more than once. It's about efficiency
not laziness--"change the system".
The comment from Hugh's email is very relevant here: "* * * No, I
do not support this, for a variety of reasons. I am not a lister and
have no desire to become one,finding it detracts from my enjoyment of
birding. I do not believe publiclands should come with a fee, even a
"voluntary one". I object to even "voluntary" standards of behavior
for an activity like this. This is not golf, it should not have rules,
standards, and so on imposed by committee. If it becomes standard
behavior, it discourages those with little disposable income from
becoming serious birders. I see the "I can afford $70 a bird" in the
original post and think unkind thoughts about elitist #...@%$^s. Things
do not need to be measured,or given a value, to be enjoyed. If one
wants to donate, fine, but do not make it an obligation, even an
unspoken one, for all. "
Thanks Gary Lefko, Nunn
http://coloradobirder.ning.com/ -- Home of the "Nunn Guy"
On Dec 5, 8:40 am, Scott Severs <scottesev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great post Ted,
>
> I'm interested in how CBRC treats submissions to ebird.org which is
> generally my favored way of contributing to avifauna data. The ebird
> database is building an incredible depository of bird trends and
> general data across the US and now an ever growing number of world
> locations.
>
> If CBRC uses ebird submissions, it there a way to make these
> submissions more effective?
>
> Hopefully more people will use ebird. It's really quite fun, and your
> sightings add to bird knowledge and not locked away in a personal
> journal. But if not, alas, that is birding, the ways of participating
> are as varied as the birds themselves!
>
> Ted - thank you for cracking the whip!
>
> Scott Severs
> Longmont
>
> On Dec 5, 3:39 am, Ted Floyd <tedfloy...@hotmail.com> wrote:> Hello, Birders.
>
> > Nick Komar says:
>
> > > Needless to say, the number of Black-legged Kittiwakes reported in
> > > Colorado this fall has been incredible.
>
> > That's great. And I hope folks will be able to look back 5 years from now,
> > or 50 years from now or even 500 years from now, and be able to appreciate
> > what Nick is saying. But here's the kicker: In order for Nick's impression
> > to be validated, there needs to be a formal record of all these kittiwakes.
> > And that can be accomplished only by submitting documentation of these
> > kittiwake sightings to the Colorado Bird Records Committee (CBRC).
>
>
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