More thoughts ... who is promoting and outreaching birders in Colorado? We see the occasional bird story in some of our newspapers but nothing on a consistent basis. I know other states have newspaper writers who write weekly articles about birding.
I think we all know we have a fractured birding community which doesn't facilitate the greater good of Colorado birding. If you want to change birder behavior, incentives are a way to change behavior. Off soapbox for awhile ... :-) Thanks Gary Lefko, Nunn http://coloradobirder.ning.com/ -- Home of the "Nunn Guy" On Dec 5, 11:49 am, "The \"Nunn Guy\"" <lefk...@coloradobirder.info> wrote: > Again, I'd like to emphasize that we are missing the point as to > understanding "why" some people watch birds. There are various sets > of values out there to assume every single birder has the same mindset > of others is inaccurate and hamper any progress. If you seek to > capture the attention of "all" birders someone better come up with a > more compelling story to garner their interests--("guilt trips" and > "scolding" won't work) you will not capture everybody but if the 80/20 > rule applies here that should be the goal. The 20(%) that simply > enjoying birding for birding have friends who may become part of the > 80. > > Regarding record-keeping, I'm an IT and "logic"-guy ... I shouldn't > have to remember 100 passwords to do my job (or live life) nor should > I have to enter my bird reports more than once. It's about efficiency > not laziness--"change the system". > > The comment from Hugh's email is very relevant here: "* * * No, I > do not support this, for a variety of reasons. I am not a lister and > have no desire to become one,finding it detracts from my enjoyment of > birding. I do not believe publiclands should come with a fee, even a > "voluntary one". I object to even "voluntary" standards of behavior > for an activity like this. This is not golf, it should not have rules, > standards, and so on imposed by committee. If it becomes standard > behavior, it discourages those with little disposable income from > becoming serious birders. I see the "I can afford $70 a bird" in the > original post and think unkind thoughts about elitist #...@%$^s. Things > do not need to be measured,or given a value, to be enjoyed. If one > wants to donate, fine, but do not make it an obligation, even an > unspoken one, for all. " > > Thanks Gary Lefko, Nunnhttp://coloradobirder.ning.com/-- Home of the "Nunn > Guy" > > On Dec 5, 8:40 am, Scott Severs <scottesev...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Great post Ted, > > > I'm interested in how CBRC treats submissions to ebird.org which is > > generally my favored way of contributing to avifauna data. The ebird > > database is building an incredible depository of bird trends and > > general data across the US and now an ever growing number of world > > locations. > > > If CBRC uses ebird submissions, it there a way to make these > > submissions more effective? > > > Hopefully more people will use ebird. It's really quite fun, and your > > sightings add to bird knowledge and not locked away in a personal > > journal. But if not, alas, that is birding, the ways of participating > > are as varied as the birds themselves! > > > Ted - thank you for cracking the whip! > > > Scott Severs > > Longmont > > > On Dec 5, 3:39 am, Ted Floyd <tedfloy...@hotmail.com> wrote:> Hello, > > Birders. > > > > Nick Komar says: > > > > > Needless to say, the number of Black-legged Kittiwakes reported in > > > > Colorado this fall has been incredible. > > > > That's great. And I hope folks will be able to look back 5 years from > > > now, or 50 years from now or even 500 years from now, and be able to > > > appreciate what Nick is saying. But here's the kicker: In order for > > > Nick's impression to be validated, there needs to be a formal record of > > > all these kittiwakes. And that can be accomplished only by submitting > > > documentation of these kittiwake sightings to the Colorado Bird Records > > > Committee (CBRC). > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To post to this group, send email to cobi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds?hl=en.
