In the 70s, there was a push to dam up Waterton Canyon.  This led to the 
best bumper sticker I have ever seen:  Frankly, my dear, we don't need a 
dam.
  
 Karl Stecher
 Aurora
  
  
  

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 From: "Joe Roller" <jroll...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:45 AM
To: "Ira Sanders" <zroadrunne...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Tom Wilberding Boulder CO" <twilberd...@comcast.net>, "cobirds" 
<cobirds@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] The New Chatfield State Park, Jeffco and Douglas 
counties   
 "Chatfield" has gone through three stages: Stage I, starting in geologic 
time, long ago, through 1975, when the dam was built and the reservoir
 began to fill.
 Stage II, from 1975 when water was impounded and the lake filled, until 
the recent disruptive engineering changes began, aka the "Reallocation 
Project". Those will be recalled as "the golden years" with much more 
habitat for birds than ever before.
 Stage III, from completion of that project until some other project comes 
along.
  
 When I moved to Denver in 1974 I strolled along the S Platte River 
upstream of the looming dam, through what would become the bottom of a big 
reservoir, dry shod, through dry farmland with a few buildings. No lake, no 
shore, scant habitat, not much, just the river.
 I love Chatfield SP and the habitat that the dam and reservoir created, 
but try to keep in mind that BEFORE
 there was a reservoir, there was a small river through dry land. Things 
change. I asked Thompson Marsh what 
 he thought about the dam and the reservoir, and he observed, "When people 
move to Colorado, they like to 
 have a drink of water and a flush toilet when they arrive." He recognized 
the reality of the situation.
  
 My two cents,
 Joe Roller, Denver
   

    On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:16 PM Ira Sanders <zroadrunne...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
  It's my understanding that the water level at chatfield is going to be at 
that high level maybe, and I repeat maybe, 3 out of 10 years. That of 
course means you're going to be walking much further to get to the water 
for 70% of the time. Ira Sanders
 Golden

    On Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 6:44 PM Tom Wilberding <twilberd...@comcast.net> 
wrote:
  Driving around Chatfield today I wondered why are all the new roads, 
paths, and parking lots SO FAR from the water. Then I scrolled through the 
following maps showing the future water level, and see that it is very 
close to the new parking lots. 
https://chatfieldreallocation.org/project-map/

For example, the Plum Creek Day Use parking lot is shown about thirty feet 
from the water, not .67 miles as it exists now. When the water will be 
raised, where the additional water will come from, and how it will affect 
many trees which will be underwater, I don't know.

I think Chatfield is still a work-in-progress. Hope the final product will 
be beneficial to birds.

Tom Wilberding
Littleton, CO

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