Karl et al-- and the beat goes on... You may or may not know about Aurora's & Colorado Springs' longterm joint water project to put a second dam on Homestake Creek immediately adjacent to the Holy Cross Wilderness Area in Eagle County. Gotta keep up with our endless growth! Currently awaiting approval to do geological test-drills at possible dam sites. If approved and the test-drills are favorable, they'll then need permission from Congress to impact the Wilderness Area. Then full-steam ahead for the dam/Whitney Reservoir within 25 years. Here's a few links: https://www.aspentimes.com/news/aurora-colo-springs-seek-to-drill-on-lower-homestake-creek-dam-sites/https://sentinelcolorado.com/news/state-and-region/reservoir-scheme/ https://www.csindy.com/TheWire/archives/2019/07/23/colorado-springs-utilities-plans-new-reservoir Marty Wolf,NW Colorado Springs
-----Original Message----- From: Karl Stecher Jr. <kstec...@idcomm.com> To: Ira Sanders <zroadrunne...@gmail.com>; jroller9 <jroll...@gmail.com> Cc: Tom Wilberding Boulder CO <twilberd...@comcast.net>; cobirds <cobirds@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 4:03 am Subject: Re: [cobirds] The New Chatfield State Park, Jeffco and Douglas counties In the 70s, there was a push to dam up Waterton Canyon. This led to the best bumper sticker I have ever seen: Frankly, my dear, we don't need a dam. Karl StecherAurora From: "Joe Roller" <jroll...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:45 AM To: "Ira Sanders" <zroadrunne...@gmail.com> Cc: "Tom Wilberding Boulder CO" <twilberd...@comcast.net>, "cobirds" <cobirds@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [cobirds] The New Chatfield State Park, Jeffco and Douglas counties "Chatfield" has gone through three stages:Stage I, starting in geologic time, long ago, through 1975, when the dam was built and the reservoirbegan to fill.Stage II, from 1975 when water was impounded and the lake filled, until the recent disruptive engineering changes began, aka the "Reallocation Project". Those will be recalled as "the golden years" with much more habitat for birds than ever before.Stage III, from completion of that project until some other project comes along. When I moved to Denver in 1974 I strolled along the S Platte River upstream of the looming dam, through what would become the bottom of a big reservoir, dry shod, through dry farmland with a few buildings. No lake, no shore, scant habitat, not much, just the river.I love Chatfield SP and the habitat that the dam and reservoir created, but try to keep in mind that BEFOREthere was a reservoir, there was a small river through dry land. Things change. I asked Thompson Marsh what he thought about the dam and the reservoir, and he observed, "When people move to Colorado, they like to have a drink of water and a flush toilet when they arrive." He recognized the reality of the situation. My two cents,Joe Roller, Denver On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:16 PM Ira Sanders <zroadrunne...@gmail.com> wrote: It's my understanding that the water level at chatfield is going to be at that high level maybe, and I repeat maybe, 3 out of 10 years. That of course means you're going to be walking much further to get to the water for 70% of the time.Ira SandersGolden On Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 6:44 PM Tom Wilberding <twilberd...@comcast.net> wrote: Driving around Chatfield today I wondered why are all the new roads, paths, and parking lots SO FAR from the water. Then I scrolled through the following maps showing the future water level, and see that it is very close to the new parking lots. https://chatfieldreallocation.org/project-map/ For example, the Plum Creek Day Use parking lot is shown about thirty feet from the water, not .67 miles as it exists now. When the water will be raised, where the additional water will come from, and how it will affect many trees which will be underwater, I don't know. I think Chatfield is still a work-in-progress. Hope the final product will be beneficial to birds. Tom Wilberding Littleton, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/808a1f9c-50fe-417f-bfae-ab225d977439%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CABF3siFAz%2BxNKCezEEX1HtW-upjPA0fd3A8BL70ju0W13dXtMA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/CAJpZcUCL%3Dr6h4v7tcpQ68MKz1o-U4T19VQ3HhbopL0VwrqJZxQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/fa05f46f716a48acaa0d6a696fbde806%40idcomm.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cobirds+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/cobirds/2015285282.55473.1566935429285%40mail.yahoo.com.
