Objective-C 2.0 supports not only property getter/setter synthesis, but instance variable synthesis. This means that you do not even have to declare the instance variable. As long as the property is defined correctly, the instance variable (and the getter/setter) will be created for you. I prefer not defining the instance variable at all, that way there's no confusion about the access; you always use the synthesized getter/setter.

UNFORTUNATELY, the iPhone Simulator does not support instance variable synthesis (at least it didn't in 2.x, maybe that changed in 3.0). This means that you cannot have code that works on both iPhone and Simulator if you want to take advantage of the instance variable synthesis.

- Eric



On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Quincey Morris wrote:

On Jun 22, 2009, at 21:31, WT wrote:

So, to all beginners out there, whenever you define a property, remember always to refer to it, in its own class, by self.property - at least when setting its value. It may be ok (depending on what you're doing) to refer to it simply by property when *getting* its value, but if the property is backed by an instance variable that is an object (rather than a scalar type), it's *essential* that you refer to it by prepending self when *setting* its value, or you'll not be doing the memory management that you think you're doing.

I understand what you're trying to say here, but I'd urge you *never* to describe it in these terms.

You say, explicitly, that it's a question of use the the correct way (out of a choice of 2 ways) to refer to a property. But that's not so. There's *one* way to refer to a property, and *one* way to refer to an instance variable. The fact that they may have similar names is purely an accident. (Well, not an accident, generally, but a convenience.)

I'd say it's really, really, really important for beginners to realize that properties and the instance variables that back them are different, syntactically and semantically. Outside a class implementation, the property is the only thing that's available (or should be, since making instance variables public is usually a Bad Idea), so clients of the class don't have to think about it. Inside a class implementation, however, you need to decide *every time you refer to a value* whether you mean the property value or the instance variable value. You need to decide that even when you *know* that the two values are currently the same, because in a future piece of the implementation you may break the congruence, but you don't want to break the existing code if you can help it.

It's not even about memory management. There's often memory management involved when using a property's accessors, but there may also be memory management involved when dealing with an instance variable in other contexts.

FWIW.


_______________________________________________

Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com)

Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list.
Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com

Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/zmonster%40mac.com

This email sent to zmons...@mac.com

_______________________________________________

Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com)

Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list.
Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com

Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:
http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com

Reply via email to