On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: > On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:46 PM, "David M. Cotter" <m...@davecotter.com> > wrote: > >> you're not going to get Adobe to turn their ship around. We did it >> in CS4 for a few apps without issue and nobody was "confused", let >> alone "incredibly". > > Count me among those incredibly confused by the UI changes in the CS3 > to CS4 transition.
I am sorry to hear that - if you want to provide feedback, then feel free to use Adobe User Forums: http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa You can also use the feature request/bug report form on: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform&samcap=EWQQL&promoid=EWQQL If you have anything concrete, then go ahead and email me directly (don't cc the list in order to keep the list focused on Cocoa topics). > And Apple did yank 64-bit Carbon UI. I don't think telling Adobe that > part of that transition means following the HIG is that much of a > stretch. There is always a contention between a framework that is easy to use, and a framework that allows for a number of different experiences. Ideally you would have both: - the ability to easily create an application that follows good experience practices - the ability to experiment with features/experiences that work for your particular user segment Cocoa is different than Carbon on these two axis - not worse, and not better, just different. With regards to floating UI, I have had issues where the button highlight on my main window dims when I put focus on a UI panel. This is not how Carbon works, and in my opinion it makes it harder to quickly see which document your floating UI is targeting. We discussed how this would work for our users and decided that they would not like the change. We therefore I ended up using HITheme APIs (these are available in both 32 and 64 bit) and logging enhancement radars. Jesper Storm Bache _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com