Thanks, that solved it.

Olivier
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Keary Suska <cocoa-...@esoteritech.com>wrote:

> On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:22 AM, olivier destrebecq wrote:
>
> > Just to clarify, when i say save, i mean call save: on the context and
> write
> > it to disk. Which  the documentation state that you don't have to call
> save:
> > to be able to query for objects and that modified object will be found.
>
> Yes. Everything the person said in their email was entirely false (even the
> statement about SQL). Ignore it completely.
>
> > If i wait a little bit (probably for the next event in the event loop)
> then
> > the object is found and i never called save: on the context (which will
> save
> > the context to disk). I actually only  call save:  when the app exits.
> >
> > The save: method will commit to disk, i'll looking for what trigger a
> commit
> > to context I guess.
>
> All the save: does is flush all changes to the context to the persistent
> store. Therefore, they must already be "committed" to the context, so to
> speak. Assuming that you have only one context and are not using multiple
> threads, you may be running into an issue where you have to call
> -processPendingChanges on the context. This might be why you see the delay
> in "committing", as processPendingChanges  is normally called in the run
> loop. Give that a shot.
>
> > I think what i'm running into is this:
> > "If you fetch some objects, work with them, and then execute a new fetch
> > that includes a superset of those objects, you do not get new
> > instances or*update data for the existing objects
> > *—you get the existing objects with their current in-memory state."
> >
> > The question is how do i commit the updated data to the in memory
> > representation?
>
> Just to clarify that statement, the docs are simply saying that, no matter
> what, you will always get the in-memory representation, and in fact, will
> get the very same manage object that you have previously edited, rather than
> a new object with updated values.
>
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Joanna Carter <
> > cocoa...@carterconsulting.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Olivier
> >>
> >>> I create an object and insert it into the context, then i update a
> couple
> >>> properties.
> >>>
> >>> Later I i do a fetch request with a predicate on the property i updated
> >>> after the insertion. If i do this fetch right after the update of the
> >>> property (using the accessors provided by coreData), then the fetch
> does
> >> not
> >>> find the object I created. If i wait longer then it finds it.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a way to "commit" the change so that the fetch will find the
> >> object
> >>> without saving. I don't want to save every time i update a property.
> >>
> >> Since a fetch request returns fully saved objects, I can't see how you
> can
> >> expect it to see unsaved changes.
> >>
> >> Think about it in database terms - you wouldn't expect a SQL statement
> to
> >> return anything other than committed rows. Essentially Core Data is an
> "OO
> >> database" and, unless you write your own caching, I doubt if you are
> going
> >> to get what you want without saving.
> >>
> >> Joanna
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joanna Carter
> >> Carter Consulting
> >>
> >>
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