On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, davel...@mac.com wrote:

> 
> I have a fetch request with sort descriptors that was sorting on a many-one 
> relationship (i.e., I'm fetching Entity A which has a relationship to one 
> entity B and I was trying to get back the array of A entities sorted on an 
> attribute of B). This doesn't work using sort descriptors; however, if I 
> apply the sort descriptor to the resulting array, it does work.

I will assume you are using a sqlite store--otherwise these issues shouldn't 
apply…

> The "if you execute a fetch directly, you should typically not add 
> Objective-C-based predicates or sort descriptors to the fetch request." 
> bothers me as I see lots of examples where they are used in books on Core 
> Data.

The key phrase here is "Objective-C-based." I believe the documentation is 
making a distinction between the full functionality of NSPredicate and 
NSSortDescriptor as executed in an Objective-C context versus the subset of of 
this functionality that Core data can translate into a SQL query as described 
in the doc section "Store Types and Behaviors."

> Can someone please elaborate on what kinds of predicates and sort descriptors 
> you can use when executing an NSFetchRequest using the NSManagedObjectContext 
> method: executeFetchRequest:error: ?

The docs give guidelines, and there is a little more in the Predicate 
Programming Guide here: 
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Predicates/Articles/pBasics.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001792-SW3
 but generally speaking most predicate syntax is acceptable except for any that 
use any Cocoa method or Objective-C syntax, such as key paths that don't map 
directly to the managed object model.

If you find specific situations where predicates don't work that probably 
should due to these guidelines you should file a radar.

The sort descriptor issue may be how you are specifying the descriptor. It may 
look at key paths differently, so you may need to experiment with different 
keys (think SQL rather than KVC).

HTH,

Keary Suska
Esoteritech, Inc.
"Demystifying technology for your home or business"

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