You're confusing CAScrollLayer (Core Animation) with NSScrollView.

I *think* that NSScrollVIew's visible rect changes when the scroll bars are 
shown/hidden. That would stand to reason. Basing the size of some content on 
the visible rect sounds like a bad idea - you might sometimes use this to 
determine what parts of your content to draw or not draw, but not to determine 
what the content itself is.


--Graham



On 04/01/2013, at 1:23 PM, koko <k...@highrolls.net> wrote:

> I beg to differ with you all:


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