On 3 Jan 2013, at 17:54, koko <k...@highrolls.net> wrote:

> visibleRect
> 
> Returns the visible region of the receiver, in its own coordinate space. 
> (read-only)
> 
> @property(readonly) CGRect visibleRect
> Discussion
> 
> The visible region is the area not clipped by the containing scroll layer.
> 
> 
> And I may have answered my question since it says the visible region is not 
> clipped by the containing scroll layer I assume the scroll bars are inside 
> the visible rect;

No it's quite confusing wording. It's saying it's giving the area of the view 
that isn't clipped.

As everyone else has already pointed out though, it sounds like you're using 
NSScrollView but reading the CGScrollLayer docs, which makes no sense.

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