On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:44 , Kyle Sluder <k...@ksluder.com> wrote: > Thirded.
Countered. :-) > I thought I wouldn't like it. I thought I would LOVE it, and when I actually used it was “meh”. Not just the additional rules/complexity when dealing with the C side of things (which I do quite a bit), but more importantly it just didn’t make any difference on the upside, for me. Which surprised me greatly. > As soon as I didn't have to manage retains and releases of temporary objects, > the discipline completely left my mind. Retains and release of temporary objects? Did you do things like the following? id myTemp = [newObject retain]; ...do stuff... [myTemp release] I have to admit that when I saw (client) code like that, I also found it problematic, difficult to understand and regularly peppered with errors. The pattern I adopted long ago to avoid that sort of situation is to have an instance variable for my temps, in which case the code becomes: [self setTemp:newObject]; … do stuff … [self setTemp:nil]; or if you prefer dot syntax: self.temp = newObject; … do stuff … self.temp = nil; Even if you forget nilling, you at most have an extended lifetime of an object, not a leak. I also generally do the same in initialization code (but not in dealloc). For me, that simply got rid of reference-counting pain. Completely. Memory management is mediated by accessors, always. And accessors are generated. I am starting to think that this may explain the (vast) difference in perception of ARC, at least it’s an explanation I can understand: if you made the switch to always having reference counting mediated by accessors, RC goes away as a pain point. If you haven’t, it’s probably a huge pain that ARC removes. Cheers, Marcel _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com