And what I wrote is here: 
https://github.com/SheffieldKevin/attributesforpreset/blob/master/attributesforpreset/output.txt


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> On 20 Jan 2015, at 01:39, Kevin Meaney <k...@yvs.eu.com> wrote:
> 
> Forgot to mention. I wrote a little something a few days ago that iterates 
> through the export presets and prints out the audio and video settings.
> 
> It uses a private Apple API so it's not for production code but the output is 
> useful to look at. It was the output from this command line tool that led me 
> to the Wikipedia pages.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:53, Quincey Morris 
>> <quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 04:02 , Kevin Meaney <k...@yvs.eu.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What I'd like to be able to do is to compare profiles obtained this way 
>>> with what I think must be AVFoundation's equivalent e.g.:
>>> 
>>>            AVVideoColorPropertiesKey : [
>>>                AVVideoColorPrimariesKey : AVVideoColorPrimaries_ITU_R_709_2,
>>>                AVVideoTransferFunctionKey : 
>>> AVVideoTransferFunction_ITU_R_709_2,
>>>                AVVideoYCbCrMatrixKey : AVVideoYCbCrMatrix_ITU_R_601_4
>>>            ],
>>> 
>>> But the documentation is so poor, I do not understand what things like 
>>> AVVideoColorPrimaries_ITU_R_709_2 mean, Apple docs don't help and my duck 
>>> duck go searches haven't helped.
>> 
>> Yes, this sucks, but it’s not quite Apple’s fault. This area (colorspaces) 
>> is a morass of disconnected information, and you have no real alternative to 
>> putting it together yourself. Each information source has different 
>> assumptions about your prior knowledge, your intentions and your workflow, 
>> and so doesn’t bother to connect its information to anything else. In many 
>> cases, you can’t even tell for sure which *direction* data is moving, let 
>> alone what’s happening to it.
>> 
>> Wikipedia is a good place to start. “ITU_R_709_2” refers to ITU Rec. BT-709:
>> 
>>      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._709
>> 
>> “ITU_R_601” is ITU Rec. BT-601:
>> 
>>      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._601
>> 
>> These are broadcast TV standards, and therefore (of course) integral to 
>> movie-making, because … kittens. 709 is HD, 601 is SD. Color primaries are a 
>> way of describing a color space, so (in combination with information from 
>> another color space) can be used to derive a method of converting from one 
>> color space to another. Transfer functions and matrixes are each an entire 
>> method of converting HD or SD colors to RGB. (RGB in what colorspace? Beats 
>> me. Just RGB, because … fluffy kittens.)
>> 
>>> When I get info about a movie file in Finder some will include a color 
>>> profile name e.g.: HD (1-1-1)
>>> If I get info for an image file created from a movie using 
>>> AVAssetImageGenerator then the profile name is: Composite NTSC. But I have 
>>> no idea how to get this information in code. CGColorSpaceCopyName doesn't 
>>> work as it is only returns a string from a CGColorSpace created with 
>>> CGColorSpaceCreateWithName.
>>> 
>>> What I'd like to know is, is the color profile of the image generated from 
>>> an imported movie the same as the color profile equivalent for the movie 
>>> (see AVFoundation color property keys above) I'm creating from individual 
>>> frames? It would be ideal if I could keep everything using the same profile 
>>> color space in my processing pipeline.
>> 
>> Because different color space names may imply different underlying color 
>> space conversion technologies, about all a mere mortal can do is compare 
>> names. However, I’m not sure what “keep” means in that last sentence. If you 
>> have an input image file, it already has a color space (explicit or 
>> implied). Your output movie has a color space that you specified when you 
>> started. If they don’t match, there’s nothing you can do to “keep” them the 
>> same, you simply have to do a conversion.
>> 
>> It’s the AVAssetWriter’s job to make the conversion for you. The point is 
>> you don’t *want* to deal with anything beyond that.
>> 
>> “It’s kittens all the way down.”
>> 
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