Just a general question I'm putting out there...
Now that NSScrollView always hides its scrollbars even when -setAutohidesScrollers: is NO if you have a trackpad, how does a user grab the thumb to drag it using a mouse? You can't see the thumb unless the bar is visible, and if it's not visible you can't click it. To make it visible you have to scroll which shows the bars, but only for a short time (< 0.5 second). This means that your only option is to use a scroll wheel or trackpad to make the bars show, then quickly click onto the thumb before they disappear. It's really hard to do. What if you generally prefer to use a mouse, even if there is a trackpad? What if your view is such that skimming through it by dragging the thumb is the most usable way to use it? What if the constant presence of the thumb on a very wide (or tall) scroll view is actually a really, really useful piece of information that would help the user even if they do have a trackpad? I can find no way to force my scrollers to stay visible unless I turn off the trackpad altogether (which overall seems like a completely unrelated thing). On a laptop it might be impossible to turn off the trackpad for all I know - I'm using a desktop with a magic trackpad attached, but I also prefer to use my laptop with an external mouse plugged in. There's no setting in System Preferences/Trackpad for disabling just this auto-hiding feature of scrollers which would solve it more elegantly. A case of missing the usability wood for the trees? --Graham _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
