On Mar 19, 2015, at 13:39 , Bill Cheeseman <wjcheese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Ken Thomases <k...@codeweavers.com 
>> <mailto:k...@codeweavers.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> That doesn't help with getting the window controller's -windowDidLoad method 
>> called.  In fact, that setting almost never helps with anything and, in my 
>> opinion, should generally be off.  Turning it on just takes control away 
>> from the window controller.

> I believe you're mistaken when you say that the "Visible at Launch" setting 
> doesn't result in a call to -windowDidLoad.

I believe he was saying it wouldn’t help with the OP’s problem, not that 
windowDidLoad doesn’t happen in that case.

> As far as I'm aware, the only thing that distinguishes the Visible at Launch 
> setting from all of the other Interface Builder settings is that it got a bit 
> of a bad name way back at the beginning because people misunderstood its 
> (admittedly misleading) wording.

I’m 100% with Ken on this issue. The setting is far more horrible than you 
suggest. If you are creating the window’s window controller in code, the window 
controller won’t exist when the window is created (!). Aside from that, a 
visible-at-launch window may end up created before the app’s supporting 
machinery expects it (for example, there may be relevant properties whose value 
isn’t known until later), and this can cause strange and hard-to-debug behavior.

I’d put it this way:

— Never, ever use “visible at launch” on any window that has a window 
controller.

— Don’t bother with “visible at launch” on a window without a window 
controller. It’s not worth the saving of 1 line of code to show the window.



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