David Crossley wrote:
Ivelin Ivanov wrote:I agree with the fact that there are many kind of productions other than code than can go into the CVS, even for PR people and the PMC chair, which may be more concerned by community management and high-level architecture.
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I would just like to disagree with the statement in another email thatPlease do not twist my words Ivelin. I did not say that
Stefano should not be elected because he is not an active commiter.
Stefano should not be elected.
I pointed out that the sudden (without any discussion) concept,
that PMC members be active committers, is flawed and needs
careful consideration.
What i was pointing out, is that Stefano (and others) will need
to be removed from the "active committers" list in who.xml
and then that breaks the notion that "PMC membership" equates
to being an active committer.
We cannot have one rule for some people and a different rule
for others.
The rule of "PMC of active commiters" is valid,That is not yet decided. I, for one, am not yet happy with
what constitutes Cocoon PMC membership.
however Stefano is a vital exception.I disagree. The PMC will need to be tweaking certain
The project has grown big enough to warrent a full-time
administrative management position.
I would consider it a mistake if Stefano gets his hands on
coding too often from here on.
documentation in CVS. It does not take much to remain
an active committer ... one change every three months.
His job of chair is to protect the interests of the project;I agree, the job of chair has many aspects. However, to put
promote it in the industry;
work with evangelists (like Matthew) and participate in
strategic architectural discussions.
flaws in the rules will lead to trouble later on. When we
need to introduce new people to PMC membership and retire
old ones, we need a consistent definition of "PMC membership".
So the solution seems to me dead simple : let's keep this "active committer" criterion, and let committers motivated by being part of the PMC maintain their active committer status. And there should be no exception for Stefano, even if we all agree on his particular role in this project.
One commit every 3 months shouldn't be so hard to achieve for motivated people...
Sylvain
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