Marcus Crafter wrote:
Hi All,

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

Would be great if you posted pictures of the event with some notes of the discussions that took place.

I know I'm a pain in the ass, but you know, I think it would be fair for those (me!) who, for a reason or another, can never make it to Frankfurt :)

Sure :) I didn't take any photos but Michael Hartle organised a
camera, as had others, so once they're ready I'm sure're they'll be made available somewhere.

We had approx. 20 people attend this time which was great (last
Frankfurt Stammtisch was 6), in the Dominicus Keller which is a
German style restaurant (lots of meat!).

From the 20 we had (at a rough count) 8 committers of various Apache
projects. The others ranged from long time Cocoon users to people completely new to the project. People were from many different
countries such as England, Italy, Australia, and of course Germany, to name a few.

There was so much discussion and many different topics I think it was
hard to keep up with it all :) Topics included:

o Flowscript
Someone, please expand here :-)

	o Blocks
Step by step... as we are moving things into separated jars (I know the build sucks, but till we don't move all we're stuck with a double build system) we can start doing the next steps:

- making these jars addable to Cocoon at runtime
- adding support for referencing the resources of these blocks (block protocol stuff)

All Cocoon components _except the default ones_ , that do not depend on extra jars (ie only jdk) will go in a single block (one for generators, one transformers, etc).

	o Cocoon projects in Europe
	o Cocoon & development environments
- on the trip back, Gianugo and I made a sketch of the implementation of an advanced Cocoon debugger in an IDE... stay tuned!

	o Avalon
	o Apache project structure
	o Cocoon build environment
Working on it, don't worry ;-)
One thing is the copying of files which is a PITA. We ahould just copy the stuff that needs filtering (ie 1.3-1.4 stuff)

	o Cocoon 2.1 release
	o Documentation
	o Gent GetTogether
	o Plus many others
	
	After dinner some of us ventured off to the Sandbar for some late
	night cocktails - which powered the discussions till closing at
	2am! :)
	
	I think we all had a really great time, and it was great to meet
	people face to face again.
	
	There was also talk of the next Stammtisch, and even a 'Cocoon World
	Tour' which sounded exciting! :)
We will remember to make it near a RyanAir airport, that airline really does discounts! (9 euros go+22 euros back!)

	Anyone else like to add anything ?
Started dumping some ideas that sparkled there

http://www.freeroller.net/page/nicolaken/Weblog

Oh, and you forgot the "modules" name debate :-P

On the plane, I came to this conlusion, to use "environments" and "features" instead of "modules".

./src/environments/servlet
./src/environments/cli
./src/environments/ant
./src/environments/...

./src/features/servlet
./src/environments/servlet
./src/environments/servlet


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(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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