Thank you Matthew >> I've read it adn it seemed fairly understandable, sort of, except for the chapter on "The authentication resource", which introduces this syntax: "<authentication uri="cocoon:raw://authenticationresource"/>" without explaining what "raw" is about, and give a practical example of how to actually utilize an authentication resource. << cocoon:raw:// is an extension to the cocoon: protocol allowing you to decide whether you want any request parameters passed into the new pipeline you are calling. If you add :raw then no request parameters are passed.
>> Anyone have an example of how to use MySQl as the authentication resource? << An authentication is just a normal pipeline. So you could look at the example pipeline (which authenticates against a file) and then change that to add the sql transformer etc. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Brandes, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:05 PM To: 'Matthew Langham ' Subject: RE: sunRise User Administration for Dummies I've read it adn it seemed fairly understandable, sort of, except for the chapter on "The authentication resource", which introduces this syntax: "<authentication uri="cocoon:raw://authenticationresource"/>" without explaining what "raw" is about, and give a practical example of how to actually utilize an authentication resource. Anyone have an example of how to use MySQl as the authentication resource? W -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Langham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/14/2002 2:36 AM Subject: RE: sunRise User Administration for Dummies Have you guys read the documentation? The authentication framework is explained in detail here: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/webapps/index.html Let me know if you have any additional questions. Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } ================================================================= Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 ================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunRise User Administration for Dummies I've looked at the user admin and the authentication in general. (not the sunrise scratchpad but what's now in the main branch). As best as I can figure there's a generator that works with the AuthenticationManager to create an interactive page to get users, a user, roles, a role, create a user, create a role, update a user, delete a user, delete a role. These simply call the various corresponding resources that you set up with the sitemap.xml (authentication manager section within the components). As far as I can tell nothing is really done with them apart from what you do in the resource. so the UI really calls the resource that you configured and you do something with it. Whatever occurs is not automagically used within Cocoon's authentication. Hypersonic appears to only be used for sample applications not for authentication. so no users, roles or the association between the two is stored. I've found absolutely no JDBC code within the authenication/session pieces. My reason for looking into this was from a scalability point of view. I like Hypersonic DB for prototyping but not for serious production code. So i was trying to make sure this wasn't being used at all for authenication. The usage of resources allows you to use your own persistence mechanism, e.g. LDAP, database, XML file, etc. Also I was looking at the session management. My gripe is that it uses HttpSession and didn't make use of calling out to resources as the authentication manager did. If the user wanted to use HttpSession or the database or... let them do that in the called resource. So ideally there's a getProperties and a saveProperties resource (oh well). Also the roles is really confusing, as within the authentication manager it's not used at all as far as I can tell (it's probably used in the portal). There's a roleFilterTransformer that goes off of the J2EE role that you'd set for the web.xml and use the isUserInRole method. That's all the transformer does. it doesn't actually use the role from the authentication manager??? so these are unrelated pieces of code. So the role information that you return from the authenication resource appears to be left to the developer to make use of somehow, assuming they're not using Cocoon's portal offering. I'm fairly certain the portal uses the role but I've not looked at the portal component at all. hope that helps. md > At 19:57 11/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Hi Guys, > > > >Can anybody give me anything... > >I really don't have any clear idea on how to start on this... > >Any working samples... > > > >Thanks Again. > >Richard > > > >--------------------------------------------------------- > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Richard Reyes > >To: C2 Users > >Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:14 PM > >Subject: sunRise User Administration for Dummies > > > > > >Hi Guys, > > > >How does the SunRise User Administration function? > > > >Are the Roles and Users saved in a Database? > > > >Do we have any tutorials? > > > >Thanks in Advance... > > > >Richard > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > >FAQ before posting. < TITLE="http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html>" TARGET="_blank">http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please check that your question has not already been answered in the > FAQ before posting. < TITLE="http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html>" TARGET="_blank">http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Langham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: sunRise User Administration for Dummies > > >Have you guys read the documentation? The authentication framework is >explained in detail here: >http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/webapps/index.html > >Let me know if you have any additional questions. > >Matthew > >-- >Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } >================================================================= >Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn >Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Cocoon book: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 >================================================================= > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:07 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: sunRise User Administration for Dummies > > >I've looked at the user admin and the authentication in >general. (not the >sunrise scratchpad but what's now in the main branch). > >As best as I can figure there's a generator that works with the >AuthenticationManager to create an interactive page to get >users, a user, >roles, a role, create a user, create a role, update a user, >delete a user, >delete a role. These simply call the various corresponding >resources that >you set up with the sitemap.xml (authentication manager >section within the >components). As far as I can tell nothing is really done >with them apart >from what you do in the resource. so the UI really calls the >resource that >you configured and you do something with it. Whatever occurs is not >automagically used within Cocoon's authentication. > >Hypersonic appears to only be used for sample applications not for >authentication. so no users, roles or the association >between the two is >stored. I've found absolutely no JDBC code within the >authenication/session >pieces. > >My reason for looking into this was from a scalability point >of view. I >like Hypersonic DB for prototyping but not for serious >production code. So >i was trying to make sure this wasn't being used at all for >authenication. >The usage of resources allows you to use your own persistence >mechanism, >e.g. LDAP, database, XML file, etc. > >Also I was looking at the session management. My gripe is >that it uses >HttpSession and didn't make use of calling out to resources as the >authentication manager did. If the user wanted to use >HttpSession or the >database or... let them do that in the called resource. So >ideally there's >a getProperties and a saveProperties resource (oh well). > >Also the roles is really confusing, as within the >authentication manager >it's not used at all as far as I can tell (it's probably used in the >portal). There's a roleFilterTransformer that goes off of >the J2EE role >that you'd set for the web.xml and use the isUserInRole >method. That's all >the transformer does. it doesn't actually use the role from the >authentication manager??? so these are unrelated pieces of code. > >So the role information that you return from the >authenication resource >appears to be left to the developer to make use of somehow, >assuming they're >not using Cocoon's portal offering. I'm fairly certain the >portal uses the >role but I've not looked at the portal component at all. > >hope that helps. md > > > > > >> At 19:57 11/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: >> >Hi Guys, >> > >> >Can anybody give me anything... >> >I really don't have any clear idea on how to start on this... >> >Any working samples... >> > >> >Thanks Again. >> >Richard >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Richard Reyes >> >To: C2 Users >> >Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:14 PM >> >Subject: sunRise User Administration for Dummies >> > >> > >> >Hi Guys, >> > >> >How does the SunRise User Administration function? >> > >> >Are the Roles and Users saved in a Database? >> > >> >Do we have any tutorials? >> > >> >Thanks in Advance... >> > >> >Richard >> > >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >Please check that your question has not already been >answered in the >> >FAQ before posting. < >TITLE="http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html>" >TARGET="_blank">http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> >> > >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >For additional commands, e-mail: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Please check that your question has not already been >answered in the >> FAQ before posting. < >TITLE="http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html>" >TARGET="_blank">http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Please check that your question has not already been answered in the >FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. <http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
