Cocoon is ready and it has been for a while. We've been using cocoon
for interface to our application for last 2 years and deploying it in *very*
large companies. We have 1000+ XSP talking to EJBs and I never encountered
the problem described in the bug you pointed out (1.7.3 - 2.0.3 releases).
JSPs are like a toy car that’s "simple" to push across your living room, but
if
you want to get somewhere real you have to invest time in learning to drive
and get behind the wheel of cocoon.

I do agree that the docs need improvement. They are much better though then
in the olden days.

Artur...


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: January 30, 2003 6:22 AM
To: Cocoon Users
Subject: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.


I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that cocoon is not ready for
professional development. Unlike tomcat, or Ant, this product has serious
things blocking its use in production systems. I personally am completely
and utterly stopped by the classpath bug indicated here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16580. Just another
symptom of a product that needs more work to be used in professional
products. That coupled with the lack of documentation makes the package
difficult at best. I will possibly be back in a year or so when this
technology has gone somewhere. This is assuming it is still alive by then. I
have seen a plethora of new people come on this list and then just vanish.
That doesn't bode well for its reputation. I don't want to take this step
and throw away two weeks of work but the fact is that I also don't have time
to wait for such massive bugs to be fixed and to spend another two weeks
swimming through poor debugging tools. Its a massive bummer to me but in
order to be true to myself I cant see alternatives. The fact is that however
flawed JSPs are, I can crack together JSP pagers 40 times faster than cocoon
pages. When it comes to deadlines, major bugs like this just stop a product
cold. Anyway, Ill stop rambling now.

Comments are invited.

-- Robert



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