Cocoon is ready and it has been for a while. We've been using cocoon
for interface to our application for last 2 years and deploying it in *very*
large companies. We have 1000+ XSP talking to EJBs and I never encountered
the problem described in the bug you pointed out (1.7.3 - 2.0.3 releases).
JSPs are like a toy car that�s "simple" to push across your living room, but
if
you want to get somewhere real you have to invest time in learning to drive
and get behind the wheel of cocoon.

I do agree that the docs need improvement. They are much better though then
in the olden days.

Artur...


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: January 30, 2003 6:22 AM
To: Cocoon Users
Subject: Time to go back to JSP. Cocoon just isnt ready.


I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that cocoon is not ready for
professional development. Unlike tomcat, or Ant, this product has serious
things blocking its use in production systems. I personally am completely
and utterly stopped by the classpath bug indicated here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16580. Just another
symptom of a product that needs more work to be used in professional
products. That coupled with the lack of documentation makes the package
difficult at best. I will possibly be back in a year or so when this
technology has gone somewhere. This is assuming it is still alive by then. I
have seen a plethora of new people come on this list and then just vanish.
That doesn't bode well for its reputation. I don't want to take this step
and throw away two weeks of work but the fact is that I also don't have time
to wait for such massive bugs to be fixed and to spend another two weeks
swimming through poor debugging tools. Its a massive bummer to me but in
order to be true to myself I cant see alternatives. The fact is that however
flawed JSPs are, I can crack together JSP pagers 40 times faster than cocoon
pages. When it comes to deadlines, major bugs like this just stop a product
cold. Anyway, Ill stop rambling now.

Comments are invited.

-- Robert



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