Hy; thank you for this contrib. I have updated the page again and introduced the pattern concept. Although my original intention was to give the beginners a simple cookbook at hand, where they just can take the snippets by cut'n paste and get their first transformation to work. Now the whole thing is near to the original documentation ;-) seems as if all documentation tends to become as explicit as possible...
anyway, thank you. Lets hope, others will find the page usefull as it is now. By the way, NOW i have separated the page into two ;-) regards, hussayn Brandes, Wayne wrote:
The BeginnerSimpleWebappOrganisation page is much clearer now, IMO.
One observation I would make, as an "advanced beginner": becasue the use of wildcards hasn't been explained in detail I think that statements like "When the interpreter hits a '*' or a '**' in the pattern, it will automatically resolve the actual value into local /sitemap-parameters/ named {1}, {2} as described in the following example: " can be misinterpreted to mean that the {1} refers to one "*" and the {2} refers to two "*"'s, rather than to order in which the variables were set. I have been confused by that in other tutorials.
Thanks for your work on this
Wayne
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*From:* Derek Hohls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2003 9:21 AM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* Re: BeginnerSimpleWebappOrganisation strange evolution
A central index = a guide to the guides...
perhaps in a nested hierachy showing where
all the topics and subtopics fit together.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/02/2003 03:58:40 >>>
Hy, Derek;
Derek Hohls wrote:
> I think the page is fine - if we add any more
> we will need to make 2 pages! otherwise the
> "simple beginners" will get put off...
I was close to split this page into two this morning:
basic_issue + advanced_issue
I simply didn't do it, because i was disturbed by a
phone call ;-)
> i was thinking we also need a central index page
> which ties all the bits and pieces together and
> gives some indication of reading order, level of
> complexity etc. (the wiki is easy to add to, but
> hard to see where everything fits in..)
What do you mean by central index page ?
Can you explain in a little more detail ?
hussayn
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/02/2003 11:12:22 >>>
> Hy, Derek;
>
> I did a major revision of the Wiki-page.
>
>
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=BeginnerSimpleWebappOrganisation
>
> Maybe you take a little time and review my changes.
>
> My big concern here is, that within the original verison
> of the page this stuff was already explained correctly.
> The errors have been added later. Now i have removed them again.
>
> Ok, the benefit we got from this intermezzo is another
> review of the page, which hopefully clearifies some
> additional points ;-)
>
> regards, Hussayn
>
> p.s.: apologize for my conclusion, about you beeing
> a windows user. Indeed i have added a few words to make
> clear, why i want absolute pathes here. That was not
> explained at all in the original text ;-)
>
>
> Derek Hohls wrote:
> > Hussayn
> > yes, it does! (and I am both a windows user - local
> > machine and UNIX user - for the production site)
> >
> > can you add these "gems" to the relevant wiki pages?!
> >
> > derek
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/02/2003 04:15:00 >>>
> > Hy, Derek;
> >
> > upps...
> >
> > From your question may i conclude, that you are a windows user?
> >
> > I am not very familiar with the windows file syntax, but i
> > think, the translation is something like:
> >
> > src="work/sitemap.xmap" ==> $cocoonroot\work\sitemap.xmap
> > src="D://work/sitemap.xmap" ==> D://work/sitemap.xmap
> >
> > By specifying an absolute path, i can separate my project sources
> > physically from the cocoon-distrib. Does this answer your
question ?
> >
> > regards, hussayn
> >
> >
> > Derek Hohls wrote:
> > > Hussayn
> > >
> > > $cocoonroot/work/sitemap.xmap - I understand, but
> > > where exactly is
> > > /work/sitemap.xmap ??? and why do you want it?
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/02/2003 03:22:54 >>>
> > > Hy, Derek;
> > >
> > > If you specify a relative src it will be resolved relative
to the
> > > current sitemap. If you specify an absolute source, it will be
> > > resolved as is ==>
> > >
> > > suppose you put a submount into the rottsitemap, then:
> > >
> > > src="work/sitemap.xmap" ==> $cocoonroot/work/sitemap.xmap
> > > src="/work/sitemap.xmap" ==> /work/sitemap.xmap
> > >
> > > If this is NOT correct, then i really missunderstood
something ;-)
> > >
> > > regards, hussayn
> > >
> > >
> > > Derek Hohls wrote:
> > > > Hussayn
> > > >
> > > > From the Cocoon docs site:
> > > > http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/sitemap.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <map:match pattern="faq/*">
> > > > <map:mount uri-prefix="faq"
> > > > check-reload="no"
> > > > src="faq/sitemap.xmap"/>
> > > > </map:match>
> > > >
> > > > The src attribute is where the sub-sitemap is located.
> > > > If it ends in a slash "sitemap.xmap" is appended to find
the
> sitemap,
> > > > otherwise the src value is used. A check-reload
attribute can
> be used
> > > > to determine if the modification date of the sub-sitemap
file
> > should be
> > > > checked.
> > > > The uri-prefix is the part that should be removed from
the request
> > URI.
> > > >
> > > > The engine will correctly check for a trailing slash
(which you may
> > > > write,
> > > > of course). If in the example above "faq/cocoon" is
requested,
> "faq/"
> > > > is removed from the URI and "cocoon" is passed to the
sub-sitemap
> > > > which is loaded from "faq/sitemap.xmap".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So - the Cocoon docs writer seems to be saying that src
DOES
> NOT NEED
> > > > a leading '/' (of course, I am not sure if one is
permissible??)
> > > >
> > > > I think we need clarity from one of the "gurus".... and for
> both sites
> > > > to
> > > > be updated with this detailed clarification !
> > > >
> > > > Derek
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/02/2003 01:59:54 >>>
> > > >>>
> > > > Hy;
> > > >
> > > > I noticed a slight modification in
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=BeginnerSimpleWebappOrganisation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > which from my understanding has introduced two severe
errors!
> > > > As i don't exactly know, why these changes have been made,
> > > > i want to ask if i missunderstood something. Here is, what i
> > > > find suspect:
> > > >
> > > > 1.) Advanced Issue: separating your work folder from cocoon
> > > > ...
> > > > <map:pipeline>
> > > > <map:match pattern="work/**">
> > > > <map:mount check-reload="yes"
> > > > reload-method="synchron"
> > > > src="work/sitemap.xmap"
> > > > uri-prefix="work"/>
> > > > </map:match>
> > > > </map:pipeline>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This snippet i found in the doc. In my eyes this
does NOT
> > > > what is explained in the doc. From my understanding the
> > > > source must be declared as absolute path as follows:
> > > >
> > > > src="/work/sitemap.xmap"
> > > >
> > > > Why has the leading slash been deleted in the doc?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2.) Advanced issue: Setting up a generic mount point
outside of
> Cocoon
> > > > I found a similar modification:
> > > >
> > > > src="work/{1}/sitemap.xmap"
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't it be:
> > > >
> > > > src="/work/{1}/sitemap.xmap"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I post this email only, because i don't understand, why
these mods
> > have
> > > >
> > > > been made. From the history i can see, these mods have
been made by
> > > > two
> > > > different persons... hmm...
> > > >
> > > >
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