+1 for Terry's idea of limiting the number of participants each institution can 
send. I don't know what this number would be, but I think it would help 
increase diversity, since it might get more people working in smaller 
organizations into the conference. 



On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Reese, Terry wrote:

> I find it hard not to laugh a little bit at this ongoing discussion because 
> it is so uniquely part of this community.  On the one hand, you have some 
> very creative people that think that they see a problem and want to fix it.  
> On the other, people are spinning their wheels, throwing out the crazies 
> solutions trying to solve a problem that we as the community have created 
> ourselves.  It makes me smile because it really does personify both the 
> strengths and weakness of this community.  I think people like this group 
> because there certainly isn't a lack of ideas or people willing to spend time 
> and energy on them.  When we put that energy towards coding and solving 
> problems in libraries -- good things happen (as well as some crazy things).  
> However, there are those times when it feels like things go off the rails and 
> to me, this is one of them.  
> 
> The conference is a nice event.  It's something I know a lot of us enjoy 
> because it’s a time to get together with colleagues and find out what people 
> are working on.  One of the reasons it works is because of its size.  It's 
> one of the few conferences where I get the opportunity to meet most of the 
> attendees and get to have significant conversations around some very cool 
> projects.  But it's certainly not the only place where this happens.  
> 
> And with all that said, I can't help but make one suggestion to help add some 
> diversity to the registration process.  I've not looked at the list fully to 
> see who is attending, but I think you'd find that some institutions are 
> sending large contingencies to the conference (and I can't toss stones, 
> because Oregon State is one of them).  A simple solution would be to limit 
> registrations per institution, much the same way CNI does.  My guess is that 
> if registration per institution was capped, at least during the early 
> registration period, you'd find that a much more diverse audience could 
> attend.
> 
> --TR
> 
> ***************************
> Terry Reese, Associate Professor
> Gray Family Chair for 
> Innovative Library Services
> 121 Valley Library
> Corvallis, OR 97331
> tel: 541.737.6384
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Brett 
> Bonfield
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:27 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations
> 
> Seems like a hybrid system might make sense.
> 
> Reserve spots for presenters and scholarship winners, and decide on both 
> before registration opens. I'm sure it's difficult to coordinate voting for 
> presenters, and I know from having volunteered on the scholarship committee 
> that it would be difficult to complete that process in time. But I think it 
> would be worth it.
> 
> I think it also makes sense to reserve spots for some number of volunteers. I 
> think this would help with continuity, help to preserve the idea that 
> everyone is a participant, reward people who put in considerable time, and 
> also encourage more people to volunteer for the more time-consuming jobs. As 
> with presenters, volunteers would have to pay for registration and their 
> reserved spots would be non-transferable. Code4lib could vote on which 
> volunteer positions guarantee the option to attend the conference.
> 
> I think the rest of the open spots could be divided between 
> first-come-first-served and a lottery system (50/50? 60/40?). The people who 
> are sitting at their computers the moment registration opens would still get 
> in, and the people who didn't know that was required -- the newer folks whose 
> participation is necessary for code4lib to stay relevant -- would have a 
> reasonable chance to see, in person, what code4lib is all about.
> 
> Brett
> 
> Brett Bonfield
> Director
> Collingswood Public Library
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Edward M. Corrado <ecorr...@ecorrado.us> 
> wrote:
>> I disagree about the random registration concept. As long as the time 
>> is announced in advance (which was done this year) people should plan 
>> accordingly. You didn't need to register the first minute this year. I 
>> registered an hour after registration opened and while I was initially 
>> on the waiting list, I eventually got a slot. If I ended up getting 
>> locked out it would've been my own fault. I could have done what 
>> others did and purposely avoided scheduling meetings around that time 
>> and rescheduled the one that was but I didn't. Yes, I have bazillions 
>> of other things to do and the registration time wasn't convenient for 
>> me, but everyone else has bazillions of things to do as well. It would 
>> not have been luck that got the people in who registered before me a 
>> slot - it would have been a combination of their good planning and my 
>> poor planning. Yes good people miss out when registration fills up and 
>> maybe the library world suffers, but a random process would still have 
>> good people miss out -- including those who would make the effort and 
>> adjust there schedules accordingly -- which I think would lead to the 
>> library world suffering more.
>> 
>> Edward
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Karen Schneider <kgschnei...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> I was really hoping that our Associate Director for Library 
>>> Technology could attend Code4Lib. She did her best, but didn't make 
>>> it. She was then pushed hard, early on, to drop her hotel room, which 
>>> she did not do (good for her) though I'm guessing she has by now. 
>>> We're a 5-person library and it's amazing to have someone with her 
>>> expertise (IT tried to steal her before I arrived, but I took her 
>>> back), and we wouldn't be what we were without her. I felt I owed her 
>>> Code4Lib, but busy with my own distractions I hadn't been on this 
>>> list for a long time, and didn't tune in to the fact that 
>>> registration for C4L has become so nutzo that either she or her proxy 
>>> needed to be sitting on the reg process the very minute it opened, 
>>> not a few minutes later. She was probably doing one of the 8 
>>> bazillion things she does every long day that help keep us going and 
>>> differentiate us from all the other teeny-weeny uni libraries out there.
>>> 
>>> The library world will be a little less than what it could be because 
>>> she's not at Code4Lib.
>>> 
>>> My idea: registration should open for two weeks, close, and then 
>>> assign spots randomly (and if it's too hard to think how that might 
>>> be done, I have a few thousand old catalog cards you can toss in a bucket).
>>> 
>>> FYI, I know what zoia is, and I even know WHO the real Zoia is, but 
>>> invoking that super-secret-stuff is just icky. Maybe she doesn't need 
>>> your super-secret decoder rings anyway. She does want to stretch 
>>> herself beyond what we can make possible. We'll keep looking.
>>> 
>>> Karen G. Schneider
>>> Director for Library Services
>>> Holy Names University
>>> http://library.hnu.edu

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