On the same token, we're making it a policy to not use mouse hover over effects to display database/asset descriptions in LG2 until this can become keyboard accessible. This is a beloved feature from LG1 so I'm hoping SpringShare read my pestering emails about this...
Jesse On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Brad Coffield <bcoffield.libr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Johnathan, > > That point is well taken. Accessibility, to me, shouldn't be a tacked-on > "we'll do the best we can" sort of thing. It's an essential part of being a > library being open to all users. Unfortunately I know our site has a lot of > work to be done regarding accessibility. I'll also pay attention to that > when/if I make mods to the v2 templates. > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Jonathan LeBreton <lebre...@temple.edu> > wrote: > > > I might mention here that we (Temple University) found LibGuides 2.0 to > > offer some noteworthy improvements in section 508 accessibility > > when compared with version 1.0. Accessibility is a particular point of > > concern for the whole institution as we look across the city, state, and > > country at other institutions that have been called out and settled with > > various disability advocacy groups. > > So we moved to v. 2.0 during the summer in order to have those > > improvements in place for the fall semester, as well as to get the value > > from some other developments in v. 2.0 that benefit all customers. > > > > When I see email on list about making modifications to templates and > > such, it gives me a bit of concern on this score that by doing so, one > > might easily begin to make the CMS framework for content less accessible. > > I thought I should voice that. This is not to say that one shouldn't > > customize and explore enhancements etc., but one should do so with some > > care if you are operating with similar mandates or concerns. Unless I > am > > mistaken, several of the examples noted are now throwing 508 errors that > > are not in the out-of-the box LibGuide templates and which are not the > > result of an individual content contributor/author inserting "bad stuff" > > like images without alt tags. > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan LeBreton > > Senior Associate University Librarian > > Editor: Library & Archival Security > > Temple University Libraries > > Paley M138, 1210 Polett Walk, Philadelphia PA 19122 > > voice: 215.204.8231 > > fax: 215.204.5201 > > mobile: 215.284.5070 > > email: lebre...@temple.edu > > email: jonat...@temple.edu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > > Cindi Blyberg > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:03 PM > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav > > > > Hey everyone! > > > > Not to turn C4L into Support4LibGuides, but... :) > > > > The infrastructure for all the APIs is in place; currently, the Guides > API > > and the Subjects API are functioning. Go to Tools > API > Get Guides to > > see the general structure of the URL. Replace "guides" with "subjects" > to > > retrieve your subjects. You will need your LibGuides site ID, which you > > can get from the LibApps Dashboard screen. > > > > Word is that it will not take long to add other API calls on the back > end; > > if you need these now, please do email supp...@springshare.com and > > reference this conversation. > > > > As for v1, we are planning on supporting it for 2 more years--that said, > > we would never leave anyone hanging, so if it takes longer than that to > get > > everyone moved over, we're ready for that. > > > > Best, > > -Cindi > > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Nadaleen F Tempelman-Kluit < > n...@nyu.edu > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all- > > > While we're on the topic of LibGuides V2, when will the "GET subjects" > > > API (and other API details) be in place? We're in a holding pattern > > > until we get those details and we've not been able to get any timeline > > > as to when those assets will be in place. So we're deciding between > > > building out LibGuides CMS "Global" landing pages using the V1 > > > platform, or waiting until some future date which, very soon, will > > > mean abandoning this project till next summer. If we go the former > > > route, it would also be great to know how long V1 will be supported. > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Cindi Blyberg <cindi...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Michael Schofield > > > > <mschofi...@nova.edu> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Q1. How complicated is it to change all 3 column guides to a > > > > single-column > > > > > left/right-nav layout? > > > > > > > > > > A little. You can force the entire group [or all groups] to use a > > > single > > > > > template, which is a huge time saver, except your guides' middle > > > > > and > > > > right > > > > > columns will be in "hidden" columns rather than forced to collapse > > > into a > > > > > single column. This was pretty confusing at first. We were afraid > > > > > we actually lost content during the migration. You will need to > > > > > manually > > > hit > > > > > every guide and change the layout to single-column, but that's > > > > > just a > > > > click > > > > > of the button. If you have 400+ guides, though, that's 400+ clicks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alas, yes. Once we realized this was happening, our devs hashed it > > > > out > > > and > > > > will be rolling out a fix to the migration script so that this won't > > > happen > > > > again. > > > > > > > > Q2. Three-columns or single column? > > > > > Single column. Users scan, and they scan the top and left-most > > > > > portions > > > > of > > > > > the screen. Anything in the middle and to the right is lost. > > > > > Also, > > > three > > > > > columns on a responsive site is a little weird, because content is > > > pretty > > > > > squishy; on tablets you might have pretty narrow left and right > > > columns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, when you view a 3-column layout on a smaller screen, it > > > > scales down to a single column. If you're seeing otherwise, can you > > > > send us > > > some > > > > examples in case this is a bug we need to fix? Thanks. :) The key > > > > here, of course, is to have the most important information in the > > > > left-hand column, and not to have too many boxes on a single page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Q5. Has anyone split the main content column into two smaller > > columns? > > > > > LG2 makes it crazy easy to change number and percentage-based > > > > > widths of the columns. So you could still use the > > > > > tabs-across-the-top template > > > and > > > > > create a little 33% wide left "sidebar" column and a 66% wide > > > > > right > > > main > > > > > column. > > > > > > > > > > > > > One slight caution here: if you add a second content column to a > > > side-nav > > > > layout and the guide author wants to display nav pills for the > > > > page's boxes, only the boxes from the first content column will be > > > > displayed as pills. This is by design, but we've filed it as a known > > issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On > > > > > Behalf > > > Of > > > > > Blake Galbreath > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:37 PM > > > > > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav > > > > > > > > > > I have always thought that left-nav was the UX standard for > > > left-to-right > > > > > languages (as opposed to Arabic, eg.: http://www.france24.com/ar/ > ). > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I feel that right-nav makes more sense across the > > > > > board, > > > due > > > > > to the fact that it is less distance to travel for right-handed > > people. > > > > But > > > > > the convention seems pretty set in stone. I am also not sure how > > > > > screen readers deal with right-nav - although i am guessing that > > > > > there is no problem there programming wise. > > > > > > > > > > Blake > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Brad Coffield < > > > > > bcoffield.libr...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Benjamin: "Unfortunately we have authors who want *three* > > > > > > columns > > > plus > > > > > > left-nav..." LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > Margaret: Love the floating nav on that page. It's exciting that > > > we'll > > > > > > be able to leverage Bootstrap with our guides now. Moving the > > > > > > entire library website to libguides CMS is looking more and more > > promising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm no UX expert but is it generally agreed that left-nav is the > > > > > > much better choice? It seems like it to me. Given current web > > > > > > wide conventions etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > One big issue to switching to left-nav in v2 is the amount of > > > > > > work it's going to take everyone to convert all guides to the new > > layout. > > > > > > Which is one of those things that both shouldn't matter (when > > > > > > looking at it in a principledness way - that is, "Whatever is > > > > > > best for the patrons! No matter > > > > > > what!) but also does matter (in a practical way - that is, "OMG > > > > > > we > > > are > > > > > > all so busy being awesome"). > > > > > > > > > > > > But part of me, when looking at other people's guides and my > > > > > > own, wonders if three columns isn't just a little TOO much for > the > > user. > > > > > > How is one supposed to scan the page? What's the prioritized > > > > > > information? For a couple years now I've been eschewing three > > > > > > columns whenever possible. Do others agree that three columns > > > > > > can be info > > > > > overload? > > > > > > > > > > > > Brad > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Benjamin Florin < > > > > > > benjamin.flo...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We've been tinkering with our LibGuides template in > > > > > > > preparation for an eventual redesign of our site and guides, > > e.g.: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://libguides.bc.edu/libraries/babst/staff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of our guide authors weren't happy with the LibGuides > > > > > > > side-navigation's single-column limitation, so we made our own > > > > > > > template, moved {{guide_nav}} off to a left column, and wrote > > > > > > > our own styles to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > the default top-nav display as left-nav. We've found that a > > > > > > > 50/50 > > > or > > > > > > 75/25 > > > > > > > split next to the left nav looks pretty good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we have authors who want *three* columns plus > > > > left-nav... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general the LibGuides templating has felt modern and easy > > > > > > > to > > > work > > > > > > with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Brad Coffield < > > > > > > > bcoffield.libr...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm finally diving into our Libguides v2 migration and I'm > > > > > > > > wondering if anyone would be willing to share their > > > > > > > > experience/choices regarding templating. (Or even some > > > > > > > > code!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking left-nav is the way to go. Has anyone split the > > > > > > > > main > > > > > > content > > > > > > > > column into two smaller columns? Done that with a > > > > > > > > column-width-spanning > > > > > > > box > > > > > > > > atop the main content area? Any other neato templates ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are in the process of building a "style guide" for all > > > > > > > > libguides > > > > > > > authors > > > > > > > > to use. And also some sort of peer-review process to help > > > > > > > > enforce the > > > > > > > style > > > > > > > > guide. I'm thinking we are going to want to restrict all > > > > > > > > authors to left-nav templates but perhaps the ideal solution > > > > > > > > would be to require left-nav of all but to have a variety of > > > > > > > > custom left-nav templates to choose from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts are much appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Brad Coffield, MLIS > > > > > > > > Assistant Information and Web Services Librarian Saint > > > > > > > > Francis University > > > > > > > > 814-472-3315 > > > > > > > > bcoffi...@francis.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Brad Coffield, MLIS > > > > > > Assistant Information and Web Services Librarian Saint Francis > > > > > > University > > > > > > 814-472-3315 > > > > > > bcoffi...@francis.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Blake L. Galbreath > > > > > Systems Librarian > > > > > Eastern Oregon University > > > > > One University Boulevard > > > > > La Grande, OR 97850 > > > > > (541) 962.3017 > > > > > bgalbre...@eou.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Nadaleen Tempelman-Kluit > > > Head, User Experience (UX) Department > > > Bobst Library, New York University > > > n...@nyu.edu > > > (212) 998-2469 > > > @nyulibraries > > > > > > > > > -- > Brad Coffield, MLIS > Assistant Information and Web Services Librarian > Saint Francis University > 814-472-3315 > bcoffi...@francis.edu > -- Jesse Martinez Web Services Librarian O'Neill Library, Boston College jesse.marti...@bc.edu 617-552-2509