John, I see your point. What I had in mind would be focusing on front-end technologies, mainly user interface and design patterns. Backend tech trends change so often that any document would be obsolete by the time it is finished. There would also have to be a group committed to regularly updating this information.
Josh Welker -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Scancella, John Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:34 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav) Hey guys I am new to this list so I beg your pardon if I am responding to the wrong people. I have been trying to follow the conversation below and agree with Michael, I am still not clear what the end goal is. Having been developer for a number of years now(and looking at this from that perspective), I worry that any suggestions/best practices now will be wrong in the near future (change is constant). I know it stinks, but I don't see any other way but wade through lots of technical documents to understand WHY they(document writer) suggest something. What is applicable now to someone is not the case for someone else/ or in the future. Case in point, which is better to use for hosting a web application Tomcat or Jetty? The answer is "it really depends". Until we have computers that can write/manage code for you, I don't see this changing. John Scancella -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Brad Coffield Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:23 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav) I agree that it would be a bad idea to endeavor to create our own special standards that deviate from accepted web best practices and standards. My own thought was more towards a guide for librarians, curated by librarians, that provides a summary of best practices. On the one hand, something to help those without a deep tech background to quickly get up to speed with best practices instead of needing to conduct a lot of research and reading. But beyond that, it would also be a resource that went deeper for those who wanted to explore the literature. So, bullet points and short lists of information accompanied by links to additional resources etc. (So, right now, it sounds like a libguide lol) Though I do think there would potentially be additional information that did apply mostly/only to libraries and our particular sites etc. Off the top of my head: a thorough treatment and recommendations regarding libguides v2 and accessibility, customizing common library-used products (like Serial Solutions 360 link, Worldcat Local and all their competitors) so that they are most usable and accessible. At it's core, though, what I'm picturing is something where librarians get together and cut through the noise, pull out best web practices, and display them in a quickly digested format. Everything else would be the proverbial gravy. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Michael Schofield <mschofi...@nova.edu> wrote: > I am interested but I am a little hazy about what kind of standards > you all are suggesting. I would warn against creating standards that > conflict with any actual web standards, because I--and, I think, many > others--would honestly recommend that the #libweb should aspire to and > adhere more firmly to larger web standards and best practices that > conflict with something that's more, ah, librarylike. Although that > might not be what you folks have in mind at all : ). > > Michael S. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf > Of Brad Coffield > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:30 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: > LibGuides v2 > - Templates and Nav) > > Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new > thread. I don't know of any such library standards that exist on the > web. I agree that this sounds like a great idea. As for this group or > not... why not! > It's 2014 and they don't exist yet and they would be incredibly useful > for many libraries, if not all. Now all we need is a cool 'working > group' title for ourselves and we're halfway done! Right??? > > But seriously, I'd love to help. > > Brad > > > > > -- > Brad Coffield, MLIS > Assistant Information and Web Services Librarian Saint Francis > University > 814-472-3315 > bcoffi...@francis.edu > -- Brad Coffield, MLIS Assistant Information and Web Services Librarian Saint Francis University 814-472-3315 bcoffi...@francis.edu