Hello Ralf,

Thanks for the idea.  I think it's brilliant and I shall do as suggested.  Since 
you've been half-way through developing a similar gateway to my intended 
one, you must have gained useful tips along the way that you might want to 
share with me.

> Hi Aznidin,
> 
> i'm currently working on a web/wap gateway for p10 of ircu - it's not
> that much work if you just code a leaf ircd server and connect it to a
> standard ircu hub.
> doing a leaf ircd for p10 of ircu is not that hard. the guys here did a
> very good work in integrating the numerics and the tokenization. i just
> do not understand why they didn't used standard base64 characters (+/-
> instead of ]/[) used in http protocol...)
> 
> i've had a look on a lot of ircd implementations - this one is simply
> the best!
> 
> Best Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> 
> Ralf Niebecker
> Channel Manager Games
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aznidin Zainuddin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sonntag, 5. August 2001 04:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Coder-Com] Re: [Help] SMS Chat
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, somebody at [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested that I address my questions
> (att
>  he bottom of this email) to coder-com.  Please respond.  Thank you.
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Suggest you address your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> Regards,
>> elm
>> 
>> Aznidin Zainuddin wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ops!  Sorry if I get you confused.  I didn't plan to use undernet.org
>>> assets at all.  What I meant was to use Undernet open sorce IRC
>>> server application as IRC server within my own closed and isolated
>>> network to serve GSM users in my country only.  The isolated network
>>> knows nothing about undernet.org and on the other hand, users of
>>> undernet.org won't be able to connect to this network at all.
>>> 
>>> The purpose of using ready made IRC server app is to avoid developing
>>> another protocol that serves similar purpose i.e. chatting. 
>>> Accordingly, I don't have to bother about evolving IRC server
>>> technology.  I could just concentrate on developing the mediator
>>> between the IRC server and the SMSC.
>>> 
>>> From users' point of view, those who are familiar with IRC protocol
>>> will get
>>> used to the new SMS service in no time.  It's just a different medium
>>> i.e the handphone.  And of course, with limited device capabilities, 
>>> some IRC features will have to be suppressed.
>>> 
>>> 500,000 users may be a bit exaggerated.  But I need to prepare for
>>> the worst.
>>> 
>>> I hope I've made myself clear.  I would really appreciate it if you
>>> could answer my questions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I am somewhat confused. It seems you wish to use undernet.org
>>> > assets which are for irc protocol.  Our servers are already working
>>> > at max capacity most of the time and you wish to add an additional
>>> > load of 500,000.  You have any idea what that would do?  Our users
>>> > are having difficulty connecting at times now.
>>> >
>>> > I would suggest you develope your own protocol and setup a network
>>> > for people that desire to use the protocol.
>>> > You might wish to join #coders and see what ideas ppl in there
>>> > would give you.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > elm
>>> >
>>> > Aznidin Zainuddin wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't really know where I should forward this.  I hope I'm
>>> >> sending this to the right person.  At least please give me some
>>> >> pointer as to where I should seek for some advise/opinion before I
>>> >> embark on the application coding.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm planning to develop an application that allows chatting
>>> >> between GSM phone users using SMS.  An initial thought would be to
>>> >> have the application acts as the gateway between SMSC and 
Undernet
>>> >> IRC server/s.  That being the case, the application will have a
>>> >> single two-way TCP channel with SMSC. On every request for
>>> >> connection from GSM phones, the application will spawn a thread
>>> >> that acts as a single client to Undernet.  To Undernet, the
>>> >> spawned thread is just a new and different client/bot although it
>>> >> came from a single source.
>>> >>
>>> >> Given the following constrains:
>>> >> 1.  Number of connecting GSM customers: At least 500,000 at one
>>> >> time. 2.  Each GSM phone can only connect to a room at one time.
>>> >> 3.  Undernet IRC will only serve the application (not openned to
>>> >> the public Internet IRC clients)
>>> >> 4.  There would be interconnecting IRC servers between different
>>> >> GSM operators.
>>> >>
>>> >> My questions are:
>>> >> 1.  Is this the best approach? and if it is:
>>> >> 2.  How many IRC servers are generally required?
>>> >> 3.  What would be the optimal RAM for each of the servers?
>>> >> 4.  What would be the suggested FD_SETSIZE that I should hack? 5. 
>>> >> How many ports should I configure?
>>> >> 6.  What would be the server & Undernet IRC specific
>>> >> configurations? 7.  Anything else that I should consider?
>>> >> 8.  If this is not the best approach, would you please suggest a
>>> >> better one?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you for your invaluable tips.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> rgds,
>>> >> din
>>> 
>>> --
>>> rgds,
>>> din
> 
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