lhotari commented on code in PR #23945:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/23945#discussion_r1975046175


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+# PIP-406: Introduce metrics related to dispatch_throttled_count
+
+# Background knowledge
+
+## Motivation
+
+Currently, users can monitor subscription backlogs using the 
`pulsar_subscription_back_log_no_delayed` metric. 
+However, if [dispatch 
throttling](https://pulsar.apache.org/docs/next/concepts-throttling/) is 
configured at the broker/topic/subscription level,
+this metric may not accurately reflect whether the backlog is due to 
insufficient consumer capacity, as it could be caused by dispatch throttling.
+
+## Goals
+
+Introduce metrics to indicate the count of `messages/bytes throttled` for 
**broker/topic/subscription** level rate limit. 
+This allows users to write PromQL queries to identify subscriptions with high 
backlogs but low or no throttling, pinpointing backlogs caused by insufficient 
consumer capacity.
+
+## In Scope
+
+Broker Level:
+- Introduce the metric `pulsar_broker_dispatch_throttled_msg_count` to 
represent the total count of messages throttled for a broker.
+- Introduce the metric `pulsar_broker_dispatch_throttled_bytes_count` to 
represent the total count of bytes throttled for a broker.
+
+Topic Level:
+- Introduce the metric `pulsar_dispatch_throttled_msg_count` to represent the 
total count of messages throttled for a topic.
+- Introduce the metric `pulsar_dispatch_throttled_bytes_count` to represent 
the total count of bytes throttled for a topic.
+ 
+Subscription Level:
+- Introduce the metric `pulsar_subscription_dispatch_throttled_msg_count` to 
represent the total count of messages throttled for a subscription.
+- Introduce the metric `pulsar_subscription_dispatch_throttled_bytes_count` to 
represent the total count of bytes throttled for a subscription.
+ 
+
+## Out of Scope
+- These states are not persistent and will reset upon broker restart/ topic 
re-load / subscription reconnected.
+
+# High Level Design
+1. Maintain `dispatchThrottleMsgCount` and `dispatchThrottleBytesCount` in 
`DispatchRateLimiter`. Increase these values in the `consumeDispatchQuota` 
method when the TokenBucket for messages or bytes is insufficient.
+2. Output these fields when retrieving metrics.
+
+
+# Detailed Design
+
+## Design & Implementation Details
+1. Maintain `dispatchThrottleMsgCount` and `dispatchThrottleBytesCount` in 
`DispatchRateLimiter`:
+```java
+    private final LongAdder dispatchThrottleMsgCount = new LongAdder();
+    private final LongAdder dispatchThrottleBytesCount = new LongAdder();
+```
+
+2. During each 
[consumeDispatchQuota](https://github.com/apache/pulsar/blob/c4cff0ab3dac169c0a1418ef2f63f61604f6278e/pulsar-broker/src/main/java/org/apache/pulsar/broker/service/persistent/DispatchRateLimiter.java#L97-L104),
+if token bucket is insufficient, increase these fields accordingly.
+```diff
+     public void consumeDispatchQuota(long numberOfMessages, long byteSize) {
+         AsyncTokenBucket localDispatchRateLimiterOnMessage = 
dispatchRateLimiterOnMessage;
+         if (numberOfMessages > 0 && localDispatchRateLimiterOnMessage != 
null) {
+-            localDispatchRateLimiterOnMessage.consumeTokens(numberOfMessages);
++            if 
(!localDispatchRateLimiterOnMessage.consumeTokensAndCheckIfContainsTokens(numberOfMessages))
 {
++                dispatchThrottleMsgCount.increment();
++            }
+         }
+         AsyncTokenBucket localDispatchRateLimiterOnByte = 
dispatchRateLimiterOnByte;
+         if (byteSize > 0 && localDispatchRateLimiterOnByte != null) {
+-            localDispatchRateLimiterOnByte.consumeTokens(byteSize);
++            if 
(!localDispatchRateLimiterOnByte.consumeTokensAndCheckIfContainsTokens(byteSize))
 {
++                dispatchThrottleBytesCount.increment();
++            }

Review Comment:
   > Initially, I added it during reading, but then I thought about it and 
realized that for metrics like `throttled_count`, it can only represent the 
`degree` of throttling.
   > 
   > So, I added it when `consuming tokens`, rather than before reading 
messages. If a limit throttles, then there will definitely be a shortage when 
consuming tokens, and we can then increment the metric.
   
   Yes, that's completely understandable and logical.
   
   > Regarding the metric for message throttling counts, we can't obtain an 
exact value, right? 
   
   Do you mean the exact value of how many messages and bytes gets throttled? 
Yes, it doesn't seem to be possible since the dispatch rate limiter will set 
limits on how many messages could be read. At the time that the limit is set, 
we don't know whether there would be messages to be sent out.
   
   > Even with the new code, you've changed the logic: delaying the re-read 
when messages can't be read at all
   
   The new code in #24012 didn't really change the core logic in this area. It 
removes code duplication that was present in multiple dispatcher classes and 
consolidates the logic to a single method in AbstractBaseDispatcher.
   
   > However, if we count the times here, it can only represent a `degree` of 
throttling. This is because the metric's count is also `related to the number 
of reads`.
   
   Exactly.
   
   > I don't have any strong suggestions(I think adding it in either place 
would be fine.). 
   
   Yes, it's definitely valuable to add the counter to be able to observe when 
throttling is occuring.
   
   > If you can explain more insights, I can learn from them.
   
   Not directly related, but I just created #24036 about making the fixed 
1-second backoff period configurable and what would need to be taken into 
account if we were to change that.



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