I've attached an alternative patch to the JIRA with your suggestions -
thanks again for the feedback! I think it's much simpler now.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Mostafa Elhemali <
mostafa.elhem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback Luke. You make a good case - to be honest I shyed
> away from modifying the default implementation since I figured it's better
> to leave existing functionality as is, but you're right that being forced
> to choose an implementation (on-demand vs. periodic) can get annoying. Let
> me try out that approach and either post an alternative patch to the JIRA
> or report back on why I failed.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Luke Lu <l...@vicaya.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads up Mostafa. I've added commment/questions on the
>> JIRA.
>> The main concern is that now you have to decide what metrics system to use
>> depending on the process is long running or not. Why not just enhance the
>> existing metrics system itself to support on-demand publishing? So that
>> you
>> can use the same metrics system for all processes? We all know a
>> short-lived process can live longer than expected and periodic metrics
>> from
>> that process can provide insights on what's going on, which is the main
>> purpose of the metrics system.
>>
>> __Luke
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Mostafa Elhemali <
>> mostafa.elhem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > Yesterday I filed a JIRA
>> > (HADOOP-9090<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-9090>)
>> > to propose a refactoring of the MetricsSystemImpl class - the default
>> > (only?) implementation of the Metrics2 system - to factor out some
>> common
>> > code in a base class and have another simple implementation that just
>> does
>> > on-demand publishing of metrics instead of the default periodic
>> publishing.
>> > The main motivation for filing this JIRA and the attached patch is that
>> we
>> > (Microsoft) have a need to publish metrics out of short-lived processes
>> > (think "hadoop fs -ls") and the periodic behavior of the default
>> > implementation doesn't really work well for those. We could write our
>> own
>> > metrics system implementation (and we'll probably do that in the short
>> > term) but that would mean duplicating a lot of great code that's
>> already in
>> > the MetricsSystemImpl class, hence the proposal to factor out the common
>> > code into a base class.
>> >
>> > Does that sound reasonable? Please comment on the JIRA directly or reply
>> > here - if the proposal sounds awful (or great) or there's something I'm
>> > fundamentally missing I'd love to hear that feedback.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Mostafa
>> >
>>
>
>

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