Eric-

What problem are you trying to solve? Most of us understand how git works,
you can omit that. -C

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:31 PM Eric Yang <ey...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

> We are currently requesting committer to commit code base on:
> https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToCommit
>
> To set branch.autosetuprebase always:
>
> Base on the current preference, the history is linear, and it is described
> in this graph as Rebase and Merge:
>
>
> https://wac-cdn.atlassian.com/dam/jcr:df39b1f1-2686-4ee5-90bf-9836783342ce/10.svg?cdnVersion=iq
>
> It could cause a false alarm on blaming the wrong person for trunk
> breakage because it takes more time to iterate through all commits from
> feature branch, while the recent commits (blue dots), are much further back
> in history base on the rebase.  If it was only one merge commit, it would
> be faster to skip through the entire branch and find recent breakages.
>
> When there are several feature branches merged in short period of time,
> the extra work done to check history revision of branches took much more
> time.  This is a pain point for people that care about trunk stability but
> can’t afford all day to run full build base on each commit to isolate the
> breakage.
>
> I understand your usage for looking at multiple branches to find a commit
> to make sure maintenance branches have the proper commits or backport.
> Rebase + merge works best for maintenance branches.  However, I am not
> convinced that rebase + merge strategy is the efficient way to manage trunk
> stability.  Is there be a better way to manage this?  Probably, we can
> recommend trunk to use merge without rebase, but maintenance branches apply
> rebase + merge strategy.  Thoughts?
>
> regards,
> Eric
>
> On 12/14/17, 5:16 PM, "Chris Douglas" <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>     I'm sorry, I literally don't understand what you've written. What do
> clicks
>     on github have to do with merges?
>
>     Are you talking about git bisect, where one would first identify the
> branch
>     where the error was introduced, then run a second regression over the
>     feature branch? With similar semantics for blame?
>
>     Again, I'd rather have the history of the branch, with rebases prior to
>     merge to ensure that feature branches don't create particularly
> complicated
>     graphs.
>
>     Perhaps I haven't understood the problem you're solving. The thread
> started
>     with confusion over dates. Is that the problem? Or that rebases create
>     intermediate states that never existed on the branch (due to
> conflicts),
>     and that complicates analysis? -C
>
>     On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM Eric Yang <ey...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>     > When details are rebased, the number of entries to test through the
> linear
>     > history is much more than a merge point to isolate where the error
> might
>     > have occurred.  It is similar to traverse a tree structure, for each
>     > branch, there are n branches to walk through.  If we can know where
> the
>     > problem is before traverse to individual branches.  It can expertise
> the
>     > process to find the root cause.  IMHO, I think the number of clicks
> between
>     > pagination vs drop down on github branch selection, the later seems
> more
>     > work, but it is usually less clicks for feature branches that lived
> for a
>     > couple months.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Eric
>     >
>     > On 12/14/17, 2:09 PM, "Chris Douglas" <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I'd rather have the history. Otherwise tools like blame point
> only to
>     >     a parent/umbrella JIRA, not the issue where the change was
> discussed.
>     >
>     >     We can force a merge commit so it's clear the branch was
> developed
>     >     outside the mainline. -C
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eric Yang <
> ey...@hortonworks.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >     > +1 on squash merge to keep history compressed.  The rebase +
> merge
>     > contains good deals, but it is easy to get confused for people that
> doesn’t
>     > know about the rebase option is turned on by default for Hadoop.
>     >     >
>     >     > Regards,
>     >     > Eric
>     >     >
>     >     > On 12/14/17, 12:06 PM, "Arun Suresh" <asur...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Another option - atleast for feature branches is to maybe
> squash
>     > merge -
>     >     >     this way we see it as a single commit ? Although we will
> loose
>     > the feature
>     >     >     branch history (I am ok with that though)
>     >     >
>     >     >     Cheers
>     >     >     -Arun
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Eric Yang <
>     > ey...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     > Thank you for the pointer.  I guess all merge are done
> using
>     > rebase +
>     >     >     > merge.  This is the reason that timeline is out of order.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Would it be more useful to merge without rebasing for
> feature
>     > branch merge
>     >     >     > to avoid timeline confusions?  The argument for not
> rebasing,
>     > it would be
>     >     >     > easier to find the root cause of trunk failure was due to
>     > merge or some
>     >     >     > recent commits.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Regards,
>     >     >     > Eric
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > From: Sunil G <sun...@apache.org>
>     >     >     > Date: Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 11:11 AM
>     >     >     > To: Eric Yang <ey...@hortonworks.com>
>     >     >     > Cc: Hadoop Common <common-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>     >     >     > Subject: Re: Missing some trunk commit history
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Hi Eric.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > A branch merge has happened during that time, and hence
> you
>     > might have
>     >     >     > seen some old commits from that branch. If you go down
>     > further, you could
>     >     >     > see those commits.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Copied from my git log:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 40b0045ebe0752cd3d1d09be00acbabdea983799
>     >     >     > Author: Weiwei Yang <w...@apache.org<mailto:
> w...@apache.org>>
>     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 17:52:41 2017 +0800
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     YARN-7610. Extend Distributed Shell to support
> launching
>     > job with
>     >     >     > opportunistic containers. Contributed by Weiwei Yang.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 56b1ff80dd9fbcde8d21a604eff0babb3a16418f
>     >     >     > Author: Xiao Chen <x...@apache.org<mailto:
> x...@apache.org>>
>     >     >     > Date:   Tue Dec 5 20:48:02 2017 -0800
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     HDFS-12872. EC Checksum broken when BlockAccessToken
> is
>     > enabled.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 05c347fe51c01494ed8110f8f116a01c90205f13
>     >     >     > Author: Weiwei Yang <w...@apache.org<mailto:
> w...@apache.org>>
>     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 12:21:52 2017 +0800
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     YARN-7611. Node manager web UI should display
> container
>     > type in
>     >     >     > containers page. Contributed by Weiwei Yang.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 73b86979d661f4ad56fcfc3a05a403dfcb2a860e
>     >     >     > Author: Kai Zheng <zhengkai...@alibaba-inc.com<mailto:
>     > zhengkai.zk@alibaba-
>     >     >     > inc.com>>
>     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 12:01:36 2017 +0800
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     HADOOP-15039. Move SemaphoredDelegatingExecutor to
>     > hadoop-common.
>     >     >     > Contributed by Genmao Yu
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 44b06d34a537f8b558007cc92a5d1a8e59b5d86b
>     >     >     > Author: Akira Ajisaka <aajis...@apache.org<mailto:
>     > aajis...@apache.org>>
>     >     >     > Date:   Wed Dec 6 11:40:33 2017 +0900
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     HDFS-12889. Router UI is missing robots.txt file.
>     > Contributed by
>     >     >     > Bharat Viswanadham.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 0311cf05358cd75388f48f048c44fba52ec90f00
>     >     >     > Author: Wangda Tan <wan...@apache.org<mailto:
> wan...@apache.org
>     > >>
>     >     >     > Date:   Tue Dec 5 13:09:49 2017 -0800
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     YARN-7381. Enable the configuration:
>     > yarn.nodemanager.log-container-debug-info.enabled
>     >     >     > by default in yarn-default.xml. (Xuan Gong via wangda)
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Change-Id: I1ed58dafad5cc276eea5c0b0813cf04f57d73a87
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > commit 6555af81a26b0b72ec3bee7034e01f5bd84b1564
>     >     >     > Author: Aaron Fabbri <fab...@apache.org<mailto:
>     > fab...@apache.org>>
>     >     >     > Date:   Tue Dec 5 11:06:32 2017 -0800
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     HADOOP-14475 Metrics of S3A don't print out when
> enabled.
>     > Contributed
>     >     >     > by Younger and Sean Mackrory.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > - Sunil
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:29 AM Eric Yang <
>     > ey...@hortonworks.com<mailto:
>     >     >     > ey...@hortonworks.com>> wrote:
>     >     >     > Hi all,
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > While troubleshooting a trunk build failure, I notice the
>     > commit history
>     >     >     > for trunk between Nov 30th to Dec 6th are squashed or
>     > disappeared for no
>     >     >     > reason.  This seems to have taken place in the last 24
> hours.
>     > I can see
>     >     >     > the commit logs from github UI.  When doing a new clone
> from
>     > Apache Git and
>     >     >     > Github, the commit histories between those dates are
> gone.  I
>     > usually
>     >     >     > maintain two git repositories, one for testing and one
> for
>     > development.
>     >     >     > Both repositories were sync up with github frequently,
> and
>     > only test
>     >     >     > repository was updated today and the missing history only
>     > reflect in test
>     >     >     > repository.  This is the reason that I have the
> impression
>     > that this might
>     >     >     > have happened in the last 24 hours.  I did some spot
> check to
>     > see if the
>     >     >     > missing commits are in trunk.  The code seems to be in
> place,
>     > and only
>     >     >     > commit history is gone.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Is there any way to fix the commit history?  Hopefully
> this is
>     > not a git
>     >     >     > bug, but some peer review might find out the root cause
> that
>     > could help to
>     >     >     > understand the damage.  Thank you
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Regards,
>     >     >     > Eric
>     >     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >
>     >
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