Hi Steve,

I feel we won't have the confidence with major changes until we have
a CI that runs the full suite of tests.

Thanks,
--Gautham

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 16:12, Steve Loughran <ste...@cloudera.com> wrote:

>  he's got a point.
>
> what is to stop us cutting it from trunk?
>
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 at 18:12, Garret Wilson <gar...@globalmentor.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/14/2022 12:04 PM, Gautham Banasandra wrote:
>>
>> …
>> I would like to aim for winutils deprecation by the end of the first
>> quarter of 2023.
>>
>> The key word is "deprecation". Note that the sentence doesn't say the
>> references in the code to Winutils will be removed by this time. I offered
>> to remove it immediately. (What's the point of "deprecating" it when it's
>> an an extra step you're forcing people to take to begin with? Just rip out
>> the references.)
>>
>> … I feel it's a bit
>> ambitious. But if things fall into place …
>>
>> Hardly anything ever "falls into place" the way it is expected.
>>
>> Peeps, I'm going to leave this list for the moment because it's bringing
>> a lot of clutter to my inbox. Let me just summarize:
>>
>>    - I pointed out that Winutils, however much it was a necessary evil
>>    at the time, needs to go, and go now. I implemented a completely working
>>    first version wrapper. I offered to finish the work by revamping the 
>> actual
>>    Apache code.
>>    - Many people said, "Oh, we're already working on that; hold our beer
>>    [that's an expression, for those who may not know] and soon it will be
>>    done!"
>>    - As the months and years roll on and everything remains as it is
>>    (I'll be happy if you prove me wrong), don't forget about me and feel free
>>    to reach out. I'll probably still be eager to fix the Apache code itself 
>> it
>>    if someone can figure out a way that I won't have to do it for free and
>>    live half a year off savings to do it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Garret
>>
>

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