This seems like a good change at the 2.0 level. Obviously, this should be
Javadoc'ed carefully and precisely.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Colebourne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 02:20
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: [lang] Pre 2.0 - StringUtils.isEmpty(), isNotEmpty() and stringsa
with somespaces

This got raised on the users list.

Since this is a major version release, now would be the time to correct this
problem. (ie. for 2.0)

I propose:
isEmpty() - CHANGE to not trim
isNotEmpty() - no change
isEmptyTrimmed - NEW, does what isEmpty used to
isNotEmptyTrimmed - NEW

This is an incompatable change for isEmpty(), but seems the best solution,
as we appear to define 'empty' as "" elsewhere and refer to trimming
explicitly.

Stephen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Jonker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta Commons Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: StringUtils.isEmpty(), isNotEmpty() and stringsa with
somespaces


> In general, StringUtils seems to munge up the distinctions between null,
> zero-length, and whitespace-only strings.  Obviously there is no concrete
> definition of what "empty" means.  This makes the whole suite of related
> methods hard to learn, IMO.
>
> Personally, I think "empty" should mean "zero-length or whitespace-only",
> but should not include null.  You can't really say that your box is empty
if
> you have no box at all.
>
> Another appropriate term would be "blank".  Perhaps a way to fix all this
> would be to deprecate the poorly-defined "empty" methods and replace them
> with well-defined "blank" methods.
>
> .T.
>
>
> On 6/25/03 8:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I would tend to agree that it is inconsistent. I can't remember if
> > isNotEmpty() was in release 1.0. If it was then changing it makes me
> > uncomfortable.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >>  from:    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Reinhard_N=E4gele?=
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  date:    Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:02:57
> >>  to:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  subject: Re: StringUtils.isEmpty(), isNotEmpty() and stringsa with
some
> >> spaces
> >>
> >> This behavior is specified in the JavaDocs. However, I also think this
> >> is not really consistent. Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Reinhard
> >>
> >>
> >> Dmitri Ilyin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> if is use isEmpty() method of StringUtils with "   " (string with some
> >>> spaces) and isNotEmpty() with the same string i get true from both
methods,
> >>> becouse isEmpty trims the parameter string and isNotEmpty doesn't.
> >>>
> >>> I think it is not OK.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>>
> >>> Dmitri
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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