--- Charles Hudak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Mark wrote: > >> Eric Pugh wrote: > >> This backlash against multiple commons jars is happening in a lot of > places. > >> However, I think it is a bit shortsighted. If you are in a non > server > >> environment, I understand the problem, but in a server environment > with > lots > >> of harddrive space, I don't. Additionally, since in a server app you > are > >> likely to need all thoses dependencies any way. I think almost every > app > I > >> work on has commons-lang, commons-loggin, and commons-collections > included. > >> And then depending on what else, commons-discovery and > commons-beanutils > >> show up all the time! > > I think that this comment is a little shortsighted. We are still using > weblogic 5.1 and constantly have problems with the multitude of third > party > libraries that we are using. WL 5.1 does not seem to find libraries in > the > WEB-INF/lib directory, as it should, so these have to be set using the > classpath. Unfortunately, on Windows NT, the commandline has a size > limitation. Every so often, after adding another library, we are unable > to > start the server due to a "the command is too long" error. This is a > PITA > and we have been working around it for several years. > > Having to add 3 or 4 extra commons jars just because I want to use ONE > of > the libraries is lame.
I agree that packages should limit dependencies and I sympathize with your problems. However, you're using a broken container on a lame desktop OS. Trying to work around issues like this is *way* out of scope for commons packages. David > I'm all for code reuse but it seems as if the > commons > developers have created alot of unnecessary dependancies between the > projects (maybe as a show of solidarity, who knows). This also creates > versioning problems. If I want to update one library, I may have to > update > several of it's dependant libraries, ad nauseum. I already deal with > this > hassle with the rapidly changing XML libraries and the fact that some > idiot > library developers insist on including dated versions of the dom and sax > api's in their jars. > </rant> > > People need to realize that there are lots of legacy users out there who > aren't limited by only 'harddrive space'. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
