On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 13:58, David Blevins wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 08:21:56AM -0400, Shapira, Yoav wrote: > > >is just a framework. > > > > This is a getting a bit off-topic, but it's an interesting subject. Has > > the Geronimo team quantified their desire, i.e. determined the upper > > bound for the Geronimo embedded jar (in KB) before it's considered > > "huge" ? I imagine is no, because it depends on what components of the > > framework the application needs bundled. > > > > I'm sure you didn't mean to sound sarcastic, but you're right there is no way we > can predict the size fo the applications deployed. But we can ensure that in > an embedded environment with limited space, they get more of it than we do.
You are worried that a system running a J2EE server is unable to spare a couple of megabytes of *disk space*? A 1MByte jar file from which you actually use 1 class still only takes up 1 class worth of ram. Even systems 10 years old typically have 6GByte hard drives, so I can't see why the difference between a 300Kbyte collections jar and an 800Kbyte collections jar would worry the end user overly. And of course the target system first needs to install the JDK containing many many megabytes worth of library files that are not going to be used (eg swing). Could you please explain why the disk-space taken by commons libraries is so important to the Geronimo project? Are you intending to run Geronimo on mobile phones using j2me (which has carefully trimmed libraries for this reason)? Regards, Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]