No problem.  I'll take it in that direction, then.

Thanks for the help! 

-Ryan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Libbrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:01 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [jelly][vote] APT tag library
> 
> Dear Ryan,
> 
> I am sorry nothing more has happened.
> At this point, as of me, i am stuck into the fact that I develop on 
> places where Java 1.5 is not available and have very little 
> experience 
> of it.
> If some other jelly committers do not show an interest to it, I am 
> afraid I will have to suggest another home as you were 
> hinting earlier.
> 
> paul
> 
> PS: other help on jelly development is also welcome !
> 
> Ryan Heaton wrote:
> > This issue and proposal has been in JIRA now for about a 
> month.  Activity (perhaps interest) has been minimal.
> >
> > At this point, I'm not sure what to do.  Those who have 
> shown interest have been positive about the proposal.  Can (should) we
> > reinitiate the vote?  Are the votes that have been offered 
> adequate to continue?
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ryan Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:44 AM
> >> To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: [jelly][vote] APT tag library
> >>
> >> I have created a JIRA issue with a comprehensive description, 
> >> and I've included some examples on what this new tag 
> library can do.
> >>
> >> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JELLY-225
> >>
> >> Comments would be appreciated. 
> >>
> >> -Ryan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Paul Libbrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:10 PM
> >>> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >>> Subject: Re: [jelly][vote] APT tag library
> >>>
> >>> Ryan,
> >>>
> >>> The idea of making it a jira issue is that it's a place you 
> >>>       
> >> can post 
> >>     
> >>> to... and that people can see and comment on.
> >>> I'd put there a tag-library similarly packaged to others in 
> >>> jelly/jelly-tags/.
> >>>
> >>> How does it sound ?
> >>>
> >>> paul
> >>>
> >>> Ryan Heaton wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> I have not posted a jira issue.  I was not aware that was needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> You'll have to be patient with me, I really have no idea 
> >>>>         
> >>> how the process to add a component works.  I would be happy 
> >>>       
> >> to proceed
> >>     
> >>>> through whatever formal process has been established.  If 
> >>>>         
> >>> someone could explain to me what needs to happen, I'd be 
> >>> happy to drive
> >>>       
> >>>> it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't even mind if the component isn't wanted in the 
> >>>>         
> >>> commons, I'll put it in sourceforge otherwise.  From where I 
> >>> stand, I've got
> >>>       
> >>>> something cool, I believe it will be very useful to many 
> >>>>         
> >>> people, and if you want it as part of jelly, I'm willing to 
> >>> submit it and
> >>>       
> >>>> even to maintain it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please advise.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Ryan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>         
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Paul Libbrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:17 AM
> >>>>> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [jelly][vote] APT tag library
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm slowly catching up on this.
> >>>>> Maybe we need to have life with Ryan a bit longer before 
> >>>>>           
> >>> becoming a 
> >>>       
> >>>>> committer.
> >>>>> In order to send a fully fledged component proposal, Ryan, 
> >>>>>           
> >>> dare I ask 
> >>>       
> >>>>> whether you've posted a jira issue already ?
> >>>>> This is really needed for all to look at.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> paul
> >>>>>
> >>>>> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 09:48 -0700, Ryan Heaton wrote:
> >>>>>>   
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> I'm adjusting the thread subject to reflect the fact that 
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> there is a vote going on for two things:
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> 1. Acceptance of the new APT tag library (described below)
> >>>>>>> 2. Acceptance of me as a committer to support the new apt 
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> tag library, if it gets accepted.
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> So far, I have recorded three people voting positive for 
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>> both proposals:
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>>> Dion Gillard
> >>>>>>> Hans Gilde
> >>>>>>> Paul Libbrecht
> >>>>>>>     
> >>>>>>>         
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>> hi ryan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (sorry to have to start being a little legalistic...)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i know that this can be a little confusing but there 
> >>>>>>             
> >> are votes and
> >>     
> >>>>>> VOTEs...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> both of these need to be official ASF votes. these need 
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> more formality
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> that just vague +1's against your proposal. the subject 
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> should be [VOTE]
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> (jelly isn't necessary since VOTEs are commons-wide and may 
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> result in
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> some filters not recognising your post as a vote thread). 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> we're really only getting up to speed with the new 
> processes for
> >>>>>> accepting code which is not original so you might need a little
> >>>>>> patience. so, apologies in advance...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> i'm not sure there's any consensus about the best way 
> >>>>>>             
> >> to approach
> >>     
> >>>>>> software grants but i'd expect to understand the 
> >>>>>>             
> >> provinence of the
> >>     
> >>>>>> donated code before i'd be willing to +1. i'd also 
> >>>>>>             
> >> expect a jelly
> >>     
> >>>>>> committer to start the VOTE thread.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> it's not really possible to have conditional approval for a 
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>> committer
> >>>>>     and it's poor netiquette to nominate yourself as a 
> committer. 
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>           
> 
> 
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