On 3/6/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/6/06, Phil Steitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > <snip/> > > > > > It might make things simpler to draw up an entire future re-org of > > > Jakarta. See who gets dropped through the cracks and decide if we have > > > to kill, accept or leave them to stand alone. There are some obvious > > > ones for JWC, and some that just don't seem to fit and would have to > > > stand alone. > > > > I disagree there, and that is what actually led me to move to +1 for > > Stephen's proposal, when I have consistently argued against breaking > > j-c up in the past. I think it is reasonable to attack the "problem" > > (which, like some others I am not sure is as much a problem as some of > > us think) of lack of organization by letting self-organizing ideas > > like the one being discussed here move forward. In other words, > > instead of asking, "OK, so now how to we organize the rest of the > > stuff?" we instead focus on getting JLC going and then keep an open > > mind for the rest. Maybe the remaining commons components continue > > just fine for another several years. Maybe the struts components move > > over to struts and the JEE-ish things move into Geronimo or JWC really > > happens and they mostly move there. Maybe [math] finally gets a job > > and leaves home. And maybe none of this happens, or it happens slowly > > and independently. The key thing is to have it driven by people who > > want to make it happen. > > > Nicely said. Exactly. Organic growth.
It all comes back to my main problem - there is no Jakarta community. You're right about organic growth being the best way, let it happen. JLC will head off and enjoy its health etc. For Jakarta as a whole organic-growth of the subcommunities is not good. Maybe the answer is that we just accept Jakarta as a collection of communities and find out what the ASF want to do about that. Hen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
