Tobias Please explain how does one participate when their employment contract specifically states that viewing of sexually explicit material over the internet is a dismissable offense.
The issue isnt hosting the image its about where its displayed. On 16 May 2011 22:32, Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com>wrote: > Just logged in, so please bear with the possible wrong entry place. > > I strongly disagree with the removal. Not because that it is an image > that i created. Because this is some kind of censorship, that goes > strictly against the aims of the project itself. Some topics are fine > and anybody can laugh about them, for some topics nobody cares and some > topics causing confusion, hate and are a general nuisance. The later > mostly because of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge. > > But which kind of world will we describe? The world how it is - the > truth? Or do we want to select some mild topics and enjoy little bunnies > on a field with dozens of flowers, while one house away bombs fall and > the doughters of the family begging for money? Isn't it a bit ridiculous > to select topics and to show only the bright sides? > > Im just wondering why illustrations of war machines are ok, while > anything that is related to sexual nature is considerd as evil. Some > saying that they couldn't tell there children what such images are > about. But what about a picture of a gun? Can you explain to your > children, why people kill each other? You should and could at least try > to explain. The earilier the better. Kids have an open mind, that i miss > so much in this project. > > Reading the words of Sarah Stierch, someone could assume that a picture > of a naked male is fine. Do we get more female contributers by treating > them as some special, out of the oridinary? At the last meetings in > Germany i met several women, most complaining about this rather "useless > campaing", that they even found "discriminating". > > Back to the topic itself. Did you even know, that half of the mangaka > are females? Works like "Kodomo no Jikan" are written by female authors. > Sexuality is a primary topic. No one could life without it. Depictions > of sexuallity are known for thousands of years. And that is the point > where i start wondering. While old works are seen as something relevant, > new works aren't. Why not? They are from our time. In the time we life. > > Sorry for my English. But English isn't my main language. > > Tobias Oelgarte > > > Am 16.05.2011 16:24, schrieb Chris McKenna: > > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > > > >> The image is also not artistically, historically, or culturally > significant, > >> unlike all the other examples you cited. > > Please cite your sources for the (lack of) artistic, historic, or > cultural > > significance for this image and all the other examples cited. > > > >> The only reason it's featured is > >> because it's sexually arousing to anime fanboys who happen to dominate > the > >> culture of Wikimedia Commons. > > Citation needed for a /very/ offensive remark. > > > >> I don't need to crawl into a semantic > >> rabbit-hole to defend this observation. > > Why? Please be objective, preferably include references to reliable > > sources. > > > >> I think its obvious to any > >> reasonable person. If the image would be embarrassing to pull up in > front of > >> a classful of students, it shouldn't be on the Commons Main Page. > > Please define "reasonable person" in an objective, culturally neutral > way. > > Please list an objective set of culturally neutral criteria that would > > allow any image to be safely displayed to any given group of people in a > > way that does not introduce censorship or cultural bias. > > > > "Not censored" means just that. If you aren't happy that some images that > > offend you (or you find offensive on others' behalf) might be displayed > > then you should not use Wikimedia Commons. > > > > Chris > > > > ---- > > Chris McKenna > > > > cmcke...@sucs.org > > www.sucs.org/~cmckenna <http://www.sucs.org/%7Ecmckenna> > > > > > > The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, > > but with the heart > > > > Antoine de Saint Exupery > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Commons-l mailing list > > Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com
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