Absolutely. In my opinion just one statement of "she's got big tits" is enough to make me sick - if this is what makes a featured image, ugh. And "if you don't like it leave" doesn't work for me. Sexist comments like the tits has no place here, and I'd assume if there was an image of a nude man and someone said "His cock isn't big enough" Someone would take action.
And if you think this doesn't deter people from wanting to contribute or get involved, I'm disappointed, but, perhaps not shocked. I'm so tired of these cultural blames - too., I brought this up on the Gender Gap list as a person who believes a low quality stereotyping image does nothing for what we are trying to achieve. This has nothing to do with me living in the States, let alone many colleagues of mine here who believe this should not be a showcase image on the front page. Again, judgements of where you are from should be left out of this - most people here know little or nothing about one another's personal life. The creator of that work might go to nude beaches, and I'm sure there are plenty of "us Americans" who have lifestyles some people here would not agree with that make that drawing look tame. But, I am happy to see this dialogue taking place, and happy that it has triggered quality conversation on the original list I shared it on. -Sarah Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :) On May 16, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- On Mon, 16/5/11, Chris McKenna <cmcke...@sucs.org> wrote: >> From: Chris McKenna <cmcke...@sucs.org> >> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia >> Commons >> To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" <commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> Date: Monday, 16 May, 2011, 22:21 >> On Mon, 16 May 2011, Andreas Kolbe >> wrote: >> >>> >>> It seems to me you are obsessed with the breasts in >> that image. If someone argues >>> against an image with breasts, it is censorship. >>> >>> If someone argues against hosting some Wikimedian's >> technically semi-competent, >>> but undistinguished Thomas Kinkade pastiche in >> Commons, would you also shout >>> censorship? Probably not, I guess, because the >> censorship argument requires >>> that there be breasts in the image. >> >> Censorship does not require there be breasts or "fuck" or >> anything else. >> It's just the only arguments I've seen about why this image >> should not be >> on the main page are that it contains breasts. >> If you want to complain that it should not be on the main >> page because >> it's a poor pastiche then that's a very different issue >> that is not >> censorship related, but not one that I've seen made and so >> not one I've >> made any comments about. > > You missed a good part of the debate then: > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005964.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005973.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006036.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005989.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005981.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006022.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006023.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006032.html > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006038.html > > Kind of proves my point ... the breasts overshadowed everything. ;) > > Compare this one from the same artist: > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anime_Girl.svg > > Far less ambitious, totally within his artistic means, and a much better > illustration of Manga drawing style. That's a FP in that area; the other one > isn't. > > Andreas > > _______________________________________________ > Commons-l mailing list > Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l > _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l
