Hoi,
HELL NO
Commons is not an exhibition.. that implies that things can be found by
people looking for "i. Anyway according to the main page "a database of
21,617,796 freely usable media files to which anyone can contribute".
Thanks,
GerardM
On 24 June 2014 16:24, Neel Gupta <[email protected]> wrote:
> Back to topic:
>
> The purpose of commons is to be an *Exhibition *for public domain digital
> media, & the purpose of Wikipedia is to be an *Encyclopedia*.
> The problem arises when commons can't keep the donated digital media,
> because US laws prohibit it. This problem is enlarged because every
> Wikipedia regional site uses commons as a digital media library, and moves
> all the PD works to commons, which then deletes half of them due to
> copyright incompatibility.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rama Neko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It makes as much sense to say that Commons is a repository for other
>> Wikimedia projects, than to say that Wikipedia is here to provide
>> encyclopedic context to the media of Wikimedia Commons.
>>
>> Where the real asymetry lies is in the feeling of superiority of certain
>> users of others projects who see Commons as a "service project", and from
>> there construct the notion that jackbooting in and ordering people around
>> is remotely legitimate (and, to be practical, has a chance to work).
>> There is a small number of users, always the same, who regularly attempt
>> to push an agenda of lax copyright standards for Commons; when this fails
>> they try to impose their proposed policies by drumming up support from
>> people with vested interests from other projects, and notorious
>> authoritarians. Has anybody ever seen an influx of Commonists flocking to
>> wp.he to "treat it as a problem"?
>>
>> That is where the real problem is. The issue is not hosting these media,
>> they can be hosted locally on the projects that use them as
>> "Free-but-not-on-Commons", or as "Fair use". The issue is beating Commons
>> into submission, as an aim in itself. Well, pardon us if we object.
>>
>> -- Rama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 June 2014 19:19, Yann Forget <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rama,
>>>
>>> Sorry, but you have it all wrong.
>>>
>>> 1. Wikimedia is a repository for other Wikimedia projects. It is its
>>> primary mission.
>>>
>>> 2. But this does not make Commons contributors second-class. On the
>>> opposite, importing and managing files for other projects make them
>>> first-class IMHO. ;oD
>>>
>>> Yann
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-06-21 10:04 GMT+05:30 Rama Neko <[email protected]>:
>>> > Commons is not there to serve other projects. Commons is a project of
>>> its
>>> > own standing, and the other projects are there to serve it just as
>>> much as
>>> > it is there to serve other projects.
>>> >
>>> > It is really dispiriting to see how certain people see Commonists as
>>> some
>>> > sort of second-class contributors. That is wrong in every sense of the
>>> word
>>> > -- it is an error and an injustice.
>>> > -- Rama
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 20 June 2014 23:45, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I've noted before: If Commons doesn't want to be regarded as a problem
>>> >> by other projects, it really needs to start behaving less like one.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> - d.
>>> >>
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