The question of deleted images on Commons is exactly isomorphic to the
various Wikipedias refusing to host copy-pasted material taken from Cthulhu
knows where. And I have never heard anybody suggest that Wikipedia would be
more "reliable" is it accepted such material. I fail to see why it should
be otherwise when Commons is concerned.

Oh and David Gerard, would you please stop your two-pence Darth Vader act?
"Ksshhh Ksshhh, doesn't want to be regarded as a problem, Kssshhh, it needs
to behave less like one, Kssshhh ksshhh". Seriously, it's embarassing.
  -- Rama



On 24 June 2014 18:36, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote:

> Commons isnt damaged that needs to be routed around, the laws are an ass
> and problems will follow where ever, except to maybe a handful of countries
> who don't give a fluffy duck about copyright.
>
> the problem is communication between projects, thats fixable
>
>
>
>
> On 25 June 2014 00:29, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 24 June 2014 17:25, Chris McKenna <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > The problem is that people from other projects are uploading files in a
>> good
>> > faith understanding that Commons will look after them, as they work on
>> the
>> > principle that unless something is provably unfree then it is
>> acceptable to
>> > host.
>> > Unfortunately, Commons actually operates on the principle that if there
>> a
>> > possibility that someone somewhere may in future claim that a file is
>> > unfree, with or without proof, and with or without merit to the claim,
>> then
>> > it cannot be held unless we have proof (of a higher standard than
>> required
>> > by professional copyright lawyers) that the file is completely free in
>> the
>> > US and the source country, now and at all conceivable future times,
>> then it
>> > must be deleted. There is also a great reluctance to engage with anyone
>> who
>> > has a lesser understanding of copyright than the self-educated and
>> > self-appointed experts on Commons, and with anyone who has a lesser
>> grasp of
>> > English than they do. There is an equal reluctance to let anyone using
>> the
>> > images know that there are questions about a file.
>> > Until this attitude changes, Commons is not and cannot be a reliable
>> host of
>> > media for other projects, and usage as such must be deprecated and an
>> > alternative, reliable service project initiated.
>>
>>
>> +1. Commons is behaving like damage that needs to be routed around.
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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