In message <calm9cbn+r9oen9+9ybjfbk5ggtcmemz1yhxgdfw04otc3mx...@mail.gmail.com> Meriem Dayday <meriemday...@gmail.com> wrote:
>This is a direct violation of the CoC. No, actually, it isn't. The information about how Cloud Innovation is presently making use of it's assigned 6,291,456 AFRINIC-administered IPv4 addresses is effectively public information, and it is not difficult to derive from any number of public sources (e.g. RIPEStat, bgp.he.net, etc.) If you lived in the time of Galileo Galilei, would you consider it an affront to public decency if some people elected to look through the telescope and then just describe what they saw? And if so, then what is next? Book burning? >Disclosing such information and data without the company's consent is a >clear attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences on the >concerned person. OK, let's parse that statement, because it conjoins two different obvious logical problems. First, the Internet is *not* a private network. Fact's about what various companies are doing on the Internet are possible to see, and to learn, without needing the consent of the companies inolved. That is the nature of the Internet. If you want to run your own closed private intranet, then go head. Nobody will stop you and you can then keep every last detail of your corporate operations utterly secret. But the minute any company obtains Internet number resources and starts using those, it *voluntarily* gives up some of its corporate secrecy in exchange for being a part of, and a participant on this great communications experiment we call the Internet. I personally am not now, and never have been a customer of Cloud Innovation. And yet even well before today I already determined for myself that well more that 90% of Cloud Innovation's assigned AFRINIC-administered IPv4 address space was being deployed to other continents. This is not a state secret by any means, and the information may be derived from 100% public sources. Anyone clever enough to seek it out will find the same information. Whether the manner in which Cloud Innovation is using/deploying its assigned number resources does or does not comport with its specific RSA and/or with community approved regulations is a separate question, and one which I myself do not have an answer to. In any case, the courts will sort out those questions in due course, I imagine. But the mere facts of how Cloud Innovation has deployed its AFRINIC-assigned resources, or how it would appear to make money, based on the available public evidence, are *not* corporate secrets. Any attempt to portray them as such is just an attempt at heavy-handed censorship. The second logical problem with the statement above is contained in the part that says "... attempt of defamation and can have legal consequences on the concerned person." Exactly so! If the guy who posted the material you are reacting to was willing to take the legal risk to post that material, IN SPITE OF the possibility that he could, at least in theory, be sued for defamation, then why are YOU worried about it? Why should AFRINIC be worried about it? Obviously, this (theoretical) possibility of a defemation lawsuit is only a problem for the guy who posted the (allegedly) defamatory text, and he obviiously was willing to take the risk in order to express his opinion, SO WHAT IS THAT TO YOU? Here again, shouting down in the original poster in this manner appears to me to be just another a heavy-handed attempt at pointless censorship. I hope that we here can all have open and frank discusions of all of the issues now of concern to AFRINIC without these kinds of attempts to muzzle dissenting viewpoints based on perfectly silly arguments. Regards, rfg _______________________________________________ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
