What would this mean for the Jakarta PMC as many of them are part of Ant? Do these PMC'ers do double duty? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 26/10/2002 10:04:43 PM: > > > > > >> The idea: > >> > >> ant.apache.org would become a valid url > > > > > > > > Good move - presumably could be indendent of the rest of the points ? > > > This has been asked but not answered. I think the answer is probably no > as those are reserved for top level projects. (I prefer the answer to > be yes...but I don't think it is) > > > > >> > >> ant would have its own PMC composed of whomever the committers decide > >> (I guess) > >> ant would report directly to the board > > > > > > > > Pros and cons - appears to me that the main issue is general > > discontinuity of the value perception - committers look at a PMC and > > see it as an overhead and something to push into the furthests reaches > > of their minds - board members see this is the accountability > > mechanisms - I'm still thinging about this one - I know there is > > something wrong with the model but I don't have througts together yet. > > Understandable. Another benefit: greater self determination. Although > its in a less tangible way as Jakarta committers have great deal of > this. But you need to think not only about ant but in a global kind of > manner (the ASF as a whole) > > > > >> > >> unresolved (but I think open...or maybe I'm wrong) > >> relationship between ant and Jakarta (I'm assuming it would answer to > >> Jakarta only in name/branding) > > > > > > > > Good move - leverage Jakarta (brand etc.). > > agreed. > > > > >> > >> jakarta.apache.org/ant still valid url? > > > > > > > > Should be. > > agreed > > >> > >> greater access to the members/board > > > > > > > > Questionable given the PMC concept verus community disconnect I'm seeing. > > well principally you should be interested in this communication. > Another PRO... > more opportunity for ant committers to become recognized and achieve > membership. > > > > >> > >> Disadvantage > >> reporting directly to the board (from a laziness perspective...I > >> think you have to actually "report" though I could be wrong) > >> you'd be the first to make the transition > > > > > > > > My impression is that this something comming (which I happen to think > > is long overdue). > > which this would help achieve.. > > > > >> > >> Ant is the project I personally would like to see be top level most. > >> Suggestion: > >> Someone who understands the proposed process of this happening draft > >> a formal proposal to be voted on.. > > > > > > > > I'm not on the ant list but I would be definaterly keen to see such a > > proposal cross posted to community@ > > yes. or just moved there. > > > > > Cheers, Steve. > > > >> > >> -Andy > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ForwardSourceID:NT00086AEA
