Jason, I am the one who raised the issue about Ant and Maven. I have made the observation before. Dion said that it was the Ant PMC that was in the way. Greg Stein replied that the Ant charter could be changed if that was the only issue. You jumped down Greg's throat about the Board taking away project self-determination. Sam replied that you had misinterpreted Greg's comments. So you jumped down Sam's throat with what appears to be an assault based upon prior context, because it certainly cannot be inferred from what Sam said to you this morning.
Since I am the one who asked why Ant and Maven aren't related projects under a PMC, you might was well yell at me for having the temerity to ask a rather obvious question. But for all of your railing this morning, you never actually answered the question. What you did say was that: "I'll qualify this as I'm didn't intend to lump Ant in here. I'm specifically talking about Gump, Centipede and Ruper which as far as I'm concerned are an embarassment and Maven developers should not be forced into working with bodies of code we feel are not very good." Well, I didn't ask about Gump, Centipede or Ruper. I asked about Ant and Maven. Start there. And as far as I'm concerned, if Build Project X sucks (a logical antecedent for the sake of discussion), then an Ant/Maven PMC could resolve that by correction/replacement as part of their on-going development. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]