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J Aaron Farr wrote:

|> -----Original Message----- From: Sam Ruby
|> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:28
|> AM To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
|> Style of community building
|>
|> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
|>
|>> Rightly or wrongly so, the tone of "competition" in Avalon was
|>> set well
|>
|> before
|>
|>> the emergence of Merlin. That was bad. So now the train was
|>> moving, and
|>
|> noone
|>
|>> pulled the breaks, not any individual, not the PMC, not the PMC
|>> Chair,
|>
|> not
|>
|>> the community, not the Board - noone. That was also bad.
|>
|> I can't fix the past, but...
|>
|> Sam reaches for brakes.
|>
|> Sam grasps brakes.
|>
|> Sam pulls.
|
|
| :)
|
| All clever remarks aside, I think Niclas's response was well put.
| There is probably a lot that the foundation can learn from the
| mistakes in Avalon.  I tried to summarize some of them the other
| day [1].
|
| In terms of "style of community building" I think part of the issue
| at hand were instances when developers felt technical issues were
| paramount to community health.  Usually this results in a fork and
| in the case of Avalon, it should have.  But instead we were either
| overly optimistic and wanted to work things out or overly
| territorial and didn't want to break things up.
|
| Thus one of the 'markers' or 'safety values' which Niclas is
| talking about is a mechanism which allows communities and code to
| successfully branch and fork when necessary rather than be forced
| to play in the same sandbox until everyone learns his or her lesson
| to work well with others.  The Incubator is one such mechanism.  I
| believe it is quite appropriate to point these resources out and
| educate PMC's and developers on how to manage such situations.
|
James Duncan Davidson's Apache "Rules for revolutionaries" document,
from year 2k, has always been what I felt the "unofficial" policy
(i.e. rough consensus amongst members regarding those conflicts.

http://incubator.apache.org/learn/rules-for-revolutionaries.html

I don't know the details of the conflict discussed here, but this
document looks like a very good risk management strategy for any
technical conflict. And it does not look like the rules there have
been respected.

Regards
Santiago


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