I would also be happy to sit on the PMC and help with release votes.

On 13 May 2013 19:22, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Lewis,
>
> I was the original Champion of Any23, but didn't include myself in the
> resolution to create the TLP for hope that the community was in a good
> shape and due to my limitation of cycles.
>
> I "care" about Any23 though and am happy it is here, but not happy to
> hear that it's having issues.
>
> I will request to be added back to the PMC now, and see if I can lend
> some cycles towards helping out.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
> Reply-To: "community@apache.org" <community@apache.org>
> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 5:05 AM
> To: "community@apache.org" <community@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Any23 Community Discussion
>
> >Building a community for a small project is indeed hard work.
> >
> >Are there any other projects in the ASF that benefit from your
> >existence? That is are there any projects that depend on your code?
> >
> >If there is then you might consider approaching those project
> >communities and indicating that you are having problems getting
> >releases out. Invite people from that PMC to join your own PMC so that
> >they can do IP reviews on our releases and continue to use the code.
> >
> >If there are no direct dependencies are there any projects in a
> >related space? You might find people willing to help out with IP
> >reviews.
> >
> >As Luciano says having regular releases is important to building
> >community. Therefore I suggest your first point of focus should be on
> >ensuring you have people willing and able to help you get releases
> >out. After that you can start focussing on attracting new
> >contributors.
> >
> >Ross
> >
> >On 13 May 2013 15:56, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney
> >> <lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> Recently over at Apache Any23 we've been working towards a release,
> >>>however
> >>> we discovered that apart from around 3 or so project committers there
> >>>is an
> >>> apparent lack of enthusiasm from within the community to VOTE and for
> >>>us to
> >>> obtain quorum to release/make decisions.
> >>
> >> 3 active PMC votes is what you need to get a release out.
> >>
> >>> For clarity I've rolled back the release candidate and wanted to try
> >>>and
> >>> iron out some community issues, however I wanted some opinions from
> >>>you guys
> >>> before I can form my own opinion of where I want to see the project
> >>>going.
> >>
> >> These discussions should really happen on the project dev list, and
> >> should be a community decision...
> >>
> >>> For me the attic is the last resort. As this week has progressed, and
> >>>people
> >>> have started to chime in on the discussion over on dev@any23, I think
> >>>that
> >>> we will most likely not go to the attic.
> >>> I am personally now recognizing that we have a small number of
> >>>community
> >>> members who enjoy developing the software as "it works", and in all
> >>>honesty
> >>> I am fine with that. I actually have the same user and dev
> >>>requirements.
> >>> Can anyone please provide me with examples/experiences of projects
> >>>which
> >>> have "struggled" to stay afloat, but have continued to push releases?
> >>>I do
> >>> not have experience of this and I am very keen to learn.
> >>
> >> Wink is a small community, where some members really come to play to
> >> help get releases out. Having said that, we have a good number of
> >> users that benefit from releasing often.
> >>
> >>> Thank you very much for reading.
> >>> Lewis
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Lewis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Luciano Resende
> >> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> >> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >>
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