Hello anonymous OM user, > Using a Tor-friendly email provider supposedly hosted by someone named Dan.
I noticed that something was significantly off with the time it takes for your posts to reach the list. Your initial post and the quick follow-up you posted right after say Aug 16 in the RFC822 Date: headers, but they only reached our freecalypso.org mailing list server about 48 hours later on Aug 18. Your present reply also shows a delay of about 23 hours between what the Date: header says and us actually receiving it. It looks like your Tor mail gateway is inserting some huge delays. > And I'm delighted you're making this all possible. Donations are always appreciated: 159Yx6JRJ4oMLPTYrh1jW7fQ5D5tPHdnoM (BTC). > Yes, I received this phone with an old SHR version and everytime I > connected the SIM englightment would segvault. I flashed a newer version > via neotool (shr-2012.07/) and able to make/receive calls. but my only > issue now is that I can't install packages because there is no ipk > repository at http://build.shr-project.org/shr-2012.07/. This is the part which I unfortunately won't be able to help you with. I don't understand any of the application processor software distros for the FreeRunner (neither QtMoko nor SHR nor any others), and in fact I was never able to use my own FR as a phone (or in any other end user manner) because all that AP software is way too complex for my taste. Instead the only phones which I can use are simple phones aka dumbphones that have only one processor, no application vs. baseband separation. And because I have not yet produced my own FreeCalypso Libre Dumbphone and won't be able to even start working on it until after I get my sex correction surgery done and paid for (it's a money issue: I can't allow myself to direct any money toward project costs when I have to save every dollar toward my surgery), I currently use a Pirelli DP-L10 which runs proprietary fw - but at least it is close enough to TI/FreeCalypso to allow me to exercise most debug functions. What it really boils down to is that my distaste for excessive software complexity is greater than my distaste for proprietary sw, i.e., I would rather use a proprietary product that is so simple that I can thoroughly reverse-engineer it than a "free" solution that is so complex that I can never understand it, making its freeness a moot point for me. Having the source code freely available does no good if it is so complex that I can never do anything with it except use official releases as-is, same as one would with proprietary sw. When it comes to the support which I am able to provide for Openmoko devices, I support *only* the modem, and when I say "support", I exercise the modem part of the FreeRunner as a "thing in itself", *without* any AP software. GTA02 devices have a NOR U-Boot which is physically unmodifiable without the debug board (hardware write protection which only the debug board can lift), and I use this NOR U-Boot to operate the FR in a state where the AP software does not enter the picture at all, i.e., this NOR U-Boot is the only code which I run on the AP. This U-Boot provides a serial console via USB, and this console includes commands that turn on and operate the GSM modem. I fully realize that my personal preference for using dumbphones like the Pirelli DP-L10 as opposed to smartphones like GTA0x is just that, a purely personal preference, and others have every right to prefer a two-processor phone with separate application and baseband processors, like Openmoko has. But in that case Someone Other Than Me needs to take responsibility for maintaining the AP software while I provide a solidly working baseband, and in the case of Openmoko the fundamental problem is that there is no one left to maintain all of that extremely complex AP software they wrote, making it unmaintained abandonware of very questionable usability. > I want to flash this firmware because it's the only point I bought this > phone in the first place a few months ago, to further liberate my life. You need to be more careful and specific in exactly what you ask for. If all you wish to do is to simply "liberate" the GSM modem part of your FreeRunner, you don't need to change your firmware at all, instead you can just download and study the Corresponding Source for the moko11 firmware which you are already running: ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/gsm-fw/moko10-11-src.tar.xz You will also need this explanatory document to make any sense of it: ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/gsm-fw/moko-fw-history.txt The Calypso GSM modem was liberated when the source linked above was salvaged from the ruins of OM-Inc; all subsequent technical work done in the FreeCalypso project is not liberation per se, instead it is ordinary, non-political technical improvements - although of course none of these technical improvements would have been possible without the liberation part happening first. Seen in this light, moko11 is simply an old version, and we have had several new fw versions released since then. Since the Corresponding Source for the old moko11 version has been published, there is no difference in freeness between old and new versions, just the same kind of ordinary evolutionary technical differences as would be found in any other actively maintained and evolving piece of software. Given that you seem to be struggling with getting a working software environment up and running on the AP side of your FR, my recommendation to you would be to leave the moko11 modem fw as-is for now, and focus on the AP software, as that is where the real difficulties lie. You can then update the modem fw to the latest FreeCalypso version at a much later point when the rest of your FreeRunner becomes solidly working, which it currently doesn't seem to be, based on what you wrote. > I remember goldelico selling GTA02 debug boards for a symbolic 1 EUR a few > months back, I thought it was Sysmocom rather than GolDeliCo who offered up those debug boards for 1 EUR apiece - or did GolDeliCo make a similar offer? In any case, if you really need an OM debug board and can no longer get one, you can always pay me (or any other board design engineer of your choice) to design and build a semi-clone of that debug board for you - it is a fairly simple FT2232D-based adapter with a custom FPC connector. But please also keep in mind that this debug board is only for AP (application processor) work and will not help you in any way with Calypso modem development or debugging or flashing - instead for Calypso work you need an entirely different hardware article, namely, a special cable from one of these vendors: http://shop.sysmocom.de/products/cp2102-25 https://www.ebay.com/itm/262274039940 https://www.ebay.com/itm/252275767181 > Is it possible to run fc-loadtool on SHR? Someone did it back in 2013, and the write-up used to be at this URL: http://norayr.arnet.am/log/?p=113 But the site appears to have bit the dust... If you are still interested in updating your modem fw version now that you know that it is a simple technical update and not a "liberation" per se, I very strongly urge you to buy a cable from one of the links above. Given that there is no one left around to provide significant support for FreeRunner AP software, you would have to go through some enormous contortions in order to perform the modem flashing procedure from inside the FR, i.e., from the AP, without using the headset jack, and you would have to do it without having anyone to help you. But if can spend a few dollars or euros on the cable, then you can flash your modem using only the NOR U-Boot on your FR, i.e., with *zero* dependency on any QtMoko/SHR/etc kind of software. When using a headset jack serial cable, there is no need to run fc-loadtool under QtMoko or SHR or whatever, instead you run it on your PC. Here is the latest version of the FC host tools package which you will need to install: ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/FreeCalypso/fc-host-tools-r11.tar.bz2 The instructions for flashing the modem using the headset jack serial cable and NOR U-Boot are given in the INSTALL file inside the firmware release tarball: ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/gsm-fw/moko-new-fw-20190128.tar.bz2 > because QTmoko seems to have > proprietary components according to wikipedia, and I want to stay > absoluterly clear from that. The way I see it, *all* former Openmoko AP software distros, whether QtMoko or SHR or anything else, are now no better than proprietary sw by virtue of being abandoned and unmaintained. The advantange of free sw over the proprietary kind is that if you get bitten by a bug, you can fix it yourself, without being beholden to the vendor - but what if the software is so complex that you can never figure it out, and there is absolutely no one to ask for help because it is completely abandoned and disowned by its original creators? Unless, of course, *you* have the necessary technical skills and the time commitment to take over the ownership and further maintenance of some FR AP software distro like SHR... For myself I seek a completely different route: because I really don't want my phone to be anything other than a basic phone for making phone calls and sending/receiving SMS (for every other function my Lenovo X200 laptop running good old Slackware is much better than any "phone" type of device can ever be), all of that enormous extra complexity of a device like the FreeRunner will always be unwanted and unwelcome from my perspective, even if we did have someone to maintain all of that software. Instead I want a dumbphone like my lovely Pirelli DP-L10, but with fully published board schematics and with the firmware built from source which I maintain, i.e., a FreeCalypso Libre Dumbphone. Unfortunately the Pirelli DP-L10 cannot be turned into a Libre Dumbphone by way of aftermarket firmware (the hardware contains too many extra components which are not only undocumented, but also completely unwanted in the first place, as in camera and WLAN), hence we would need our own hardware too, not just firmware. I have all of the knowledge, skills and dedication to successfully design and build that hardware (as proven by my successful FCDEV3B GSM MS development board hardware product), but the problem is money, or more precisely, my unfortunate birth defect which also requires tens of thousands of dollars to correct. I got the misfortune of having been born in a body of the wrong sex: my brain and soul are female, but they got mismatched with a body that was male prior to the various feminization treatments I've been doing since 2014. Now I need to make a trip to Thailand to this lovely place: https://goo.gl/maps/xcSWgY3Ppvu to make my body 100% female, and I need to save up about 21 kUSD in total by May of 2020 in order to get my surgery done on schedule. It is an extreme financial marathon for me, and if I am not able to save up enough money in time, I will have to reschedule my surgery for some time in 2021, in which case it will be even longer before I can go back to spending money on further FreeCalypso development. For anyone who may be in a position to provide significant financial help, I make the following offers: 1) If anyone donates 20 kUSD or more, in return I will be to start working on new FreeCalypso hardware development *immediately* as soon as I receive the money, without waiting till mid-2020. Whoever puts forth the money will also get to decide *which* new FreeCalypso hardware I develop first, with the two choices being either the Libre Dumbphone or a packaged modem module which could be incorporated as a component into new smartphone designs like Librem 5, Neo900, ZeroPhone etc. 2) If someone donates 10 kUSD (half of what I need to get my surgery done on time), I will in return commit to start working on new FC hw development no later than September of 2020. Why that date? With 10 kUSD from outside sources, I will most definitely be able to hit the May 2020 surgery date and won't have to worry about possibly rescheduling, but I would still need to tightly save every dollar of my own money in order to cover the other half of the total cost, hence I won't be able to start directing my own money toward FC hardware development costs until after all of my surgery costs are taken care of. I have listed 2020-09 as the worst case date if I have to put all of my money toward the surgery and then recover from the hit of taking unpaid time off during the immediate post-op recovery period. And if no one donates anything substantial, I will still do new FreeCalypso hw development all on my own, all with my own money, but it may be very far out in the future, probably looking at 2022 or later. Did you say that you live some place in Europe where the local powers that be are committed to keeping GSM/2G until at least 2030? Any idea regarding their immigration policies? Asking 'cuz I will be looking for a new place to live if I have to do my FreeCalypso Libre Dumbphone development all on my own without any outside financial help, which would put it well past the sunset date for GSM/2G in USA. Hasta la Victoria, Siempre, Mychaela aka The Mother _______________________________________________ Community mailing list [email protected] https://www.freecalypso.org/mailman/listinfo/community
