Forgot to subscribe on alternative provider, sorry for duplicates. > I noticed that something was significantly off with the time it takes > for your posts to reach the list. Your initial post and the quick > follow-up you posted right after say Aug 16 in the RFC822 Date: headers, > but they only reached our freecalypso.org mailing list server about 48 > hours later on Aug 18. Your present reply also shows a delay of about 23 > hours between what the Date: header says and us actually receiving it. It > looks like your Tor mail gateway is inserting some huge delays.
I tried other providers but apparently have the same problem, no duplicates as of time of reply. > What > it really boils down to is that my distaste for excessive software > complexity is greater than my distaste for proprietary sw, i.e., I would > rather use a proprietary product that is so simple that I can thoroughly > reverse-engineer it than a "free" solution that is so complex that I can > never understand it, making its freeness a moot point for me. Having the > source code freely available does no good if it is so complex that I can > never do anything with it except use official releases as-is, same as one > would with proprietary sw. I understand, but complexity is unavoidable in almost everything and most things can't be reverse engineered if made proprietary. Admire your dedication though. > You need to be more careful and specific in exactly what you ask for. > If all you wish to do is to simply "liberate" the GSM modem part of > your FreeRunner, you don't need to change your firmware at all, instead you > can just download and study the Corresponding Source for the moko11 > firmware which you are already running: > > ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/gsm-fw/moko10-11-src.tar.xz > > > You will also need this explanatory document to make any sense of it: > > > ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/gsm-fw/moko-fw-history.txt So if I understand correctly the following change log part doesn't apply anymore? "moko13: This release has been made in order to bring Openmoko devices up to date with the recent FreeCalypso developments. Because FreeCalypso is a living and actively maintained FOSS project unlike OM's proprietary fw," > > The Calypso GSM modem was liberated when the source linked above was > salvaged from the ruins of OM-Inc; all subsequent technical work done in > the FreeCalypso project is not liberation per se, instead it is ordinary, > non-political technical improvements - although of course none of these > technical improvements would have been possible without the liberation > part happening first. Is there a significant technical improvement I need to be aware to consider flashing the fw? > > Someone did it back in 2013, and the write-up used to be at this URL: > > > http://norayr.arnet.am/log/?p=113 > > > But the site appears to have bit the dust... Nobody archived it =/ > > If you are still interested in updating your modem fw version now that > you know that it is a simple technical update and not a "liberation" per > se, I very strongly urge you to buy a cable from one of the links above. > Given that there is no one left around to provide significant > support for FreeRunner AP software, you would have to go through some > enormous contortions in order to perform the modem flashing procedure from > inside the FR, i.e., from the AP, without using the headset jack, and you > would have to do it without having anyone to help you. But if can spend a > few dollars or euros on the cable, then you can flash your modem using > only the NOR U-Boot on your FR, i.e., with *zero* dependency on any > QtMoko/SHR/etc kind of software. When using a headset jack > serial cable, there is no need to run fc-loadtool under QtMoko or SHR or > whatever, instead you run it on your PC. Here is the latest version of > the FC host tools package which you will need to install: > > ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/FreeCalypso/fc-host-tools-r11.tar.bz2 > > > The instructions for flashing the modem using the headset jack serial > cable and NOR U-Boot are given in the INSTALL file inside the firmware > release tarball: > > ftp://ftp.freecalypso.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/gsm-fw/moko-new-fw-20190128.tar.b > z2 Have to make a paypal account to buy it and don't like running proprietary JS, but if there are significant improvements so be it. > For myself I seek a completely different route: because I really don't > want my phone to be anything other than a basic phone for making phone > calls and sending/receiving SMS (for every other function my Lenovo X200 > laptop running good old Slackware is much better than any "phone" type of > device can ever be), all of that enormous extra complexity of a device > like the FreeRunner will always be unwanted and unwelcome from my > perspective, even if we did have someone to maintain all of that software. > Instead I want a dumbphone like my lovely Pirelli T60 with Guix user here, so If I buy the cable can I work with: https://guix.gnu.org/packages/fc-host-tools-10/ to flash the GSM? > > Did you say that you live some place in Europe where the local powers > that be are committed to keeping GSM/2G until at least 2030? Any idea > regarding their immigration policies? Asking 'cuz I will be looking for a > new place to live if I have to do my FreeCalypso Libre Dumbphone > development all on my own without any outside financial help, which would > put it well past the sunset date for GSM/2G in USA. Checked again and it's 2025 according to https://www.kpn.com/zakelijk/blog/-de-toekomst-van-iot-vraagt-om-meer-dan-2g.htm and they're still discussing the future. So a few calls over 2G and a little pushing should convince them to extend it. Apparently it's used for a lot of things like opening bridges and sending information about your "smart" meters. Be prepared to take a test about Dutch civics in Dutch at your local embassy if you want to immigrate. _______________________________________________ Community mailing list Community@freecalypso.org https://www.freecalypso.org/mailman/listinfo/community