On 1/24/07, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +0000, Declan Naughton wrote:
> > The "Free Your Phone" post was perhaps the most interesting announcement
> > we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation
> > for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's right, but this positive message
> > was completely overshadowed by an external Agenda and childish
> > bickering.
> >
> When I hear from Sean that freedom discussions are offtopic, I'll
> gladly unregister. I got the idea that freedom WOULD be on OUR agenda
> - not only mine and a good couple of others. If that was ill informed,
> I apologise and I will be out.
>
> Thanks for letting me know, though.
"The side who care about their personal Agenda foremost, and will take
any and every opportunity to present their personal Agenda. Even if it
means misunderstanding or twisting nuance - because, very simply.. the
more we talk about it.. the more free advertising the Agenda gets."
I did not state that anything was off-topic - use your own judgment.
However - this and the threat to unregister if you are asked to stop
pushing your Agenda is a simple case of you escalating the issue to draw
more attention to your Agenda.
Similarly, in light of the threat to unregister, an attempt to invoke
Sean to step in to settle an issue the community can solve itself, is
another escalation.
Or are you saying in other words that you are going to continue pushing
your Agenda at the expense of the community, until explicitly requested
not to, by the list-owner.. at which point your interest in the
technology will magically disappear and you'll unregister, just because
you didn't get your own way?
This is what I meant by "schoolyard politics".
Richard
"Threat to unregister" I never knew you considered me to be such a
valuable asset. I posted pretty much exclusively to the GNU/Linux or
Linux related threads.
Whenever I registered I did think freedom discussion would be on the
agenda, and valued, but if it explicitly isn't, that's exactly
opposite to what I was expecting. I would not really be unregistering
in protest, but believe what you want.
"an issue the community can solve itself" I think if the project's
father/s projected their views, what they intended when they began the
project, people who may have gotten the wrong idea can leave if they
wish.
--
Declan Naughton
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